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Berkeley's argument for the existence of God
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RE: Berkeley's argument for the existence of God
March 29, 2018 at 2:48 pm (This post was last modified: March 29, 2018 at 2:50 pm by vulcanlogician.)
(March 29, 2018 at 2:41 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: ^I think he is saying ideas can't be caused by material things because they have nothing in common.

What is in common between material and immaterial things? If nothing is in common, what is the link between them so that one can cause the other?

I didn't say that. I was merely iterating Berkeley's notion. To Berkeley,  there is no material cause.
(March 29, 2018 at 2:46 pm)Khemikal Wrote:
(March 29, 2018 at 2:40 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote: The whole argument has problems, but on the one point, (the difference in essence between ideas and material things) the metaphysics are hardly clear.

For instance, I have a coffee cup sitting on my desk. Material thing... has mass and volume. But! The idea of the coffee cup... 
-has mass and occupies space.

How are you arriving there? There is a difference between the idea and the actual object, right? The idea of the coffee cup is not the coffee cup. So what is it? And how can we measure the mass and volume of an idea?
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