Berkeley's argument for the existence of God

[vulcanlogician]

@F&F So heat itself would be an idea to Berkeley. He never contradicts John Locke or David Hume on this (both considered HEAT to be a "secondary quality" of the fire--- ie it is a perceptive phenomenon... not a real thing). Berkeley IS an empiricist in that regard (no different than Locke or Hume). He just goes one step further and says the whole damn fire is an idea... which is all we ever perceive it as.

PS: I have plenty of refutations for Berkeley, but I kind of like him so I'm doing devil's advocate duty here...