RE: Adam and Eve impossible
September 2, 2011 at 3:45 pm
(This post was last modified: September 2, 2011 at 3:48 pm by Ace Otana.)
Quote:If they didn't have the tree, they would be forced to obey God for all time never choosing God. That's not real love, that's slavery. If God wanted slaves he would have made the angels with no will to decide if they wanted to rebel and he wouldn't have created Lucifer, since he knew that Lucifer would be the one to compel the others.You've evaded the point a bit there. Do you acknowledge that it was set up. Rigged by god. God knew what would happen, he knew Adam and Eve would eat from the tree, he must of planned to kick out the both of them. Please tell me what the point of that was. Also why is the tree even required? He's all powerful and all knowing he don't need a tree there. And why the snake? One that talks?
Also, how is any of god's actions done out of love? He does force you to obey. Because if you don't you'll burn in hell. It's like standing on the edge of a cliff over looking a river of fire and someone says "love me or I'll push you off". You call that love?
Quote:With the tree and the commandment not to eat the fruit, humans were given a choice.No we didn't. God knew the future. He designed and created us this way. We behaved exactly as should of. He can't blame us, he designed us and knew the future. God is to blame.
Quote:God is all knowing, therefore he was aware that they would disobey and he already had a plan to redeem humankind, which he declared in Genesis.That's a lot of messing around. He could of not put the forbidden tree there and that would of solved the issue. Why the messing around? Why does he need to rig the situation? None of his actions make any logical sense.
Quote:It's confusing to think of Adam & Eve giving birth to so many children, and incest, etc happening.It's impossible. Due to genetic disorders, caused by inbreeding. It's fatal. You've dodged the point. How do you overcome the problems of inbreeding?
Quote:but that missing information is not enough for me to doubt the existence of GodNothing would make you doubt. That's the problem.
Quote:memo to Min:If things got that bad, I would start thinking about leaving.
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Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.
Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.
You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them.
Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.
Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.
You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them.
