RE: Berkeley's argument for the existence of God
March 29, 2018 at 4:21 pm
(This post was last modified: March 29, 2018 at 4:24 pm by brewer.)
(March 29, 2018 at 4:15 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote: The thing is Khem, ideas are sometimes blue. Nothing in the material world is. This at least says something of a distinction between ideas and material things. There are qualities that only pertain to ideas and not physical matter. That's the starting point for the argument anyway.... Your going to make me dig out Hylas and Philonous here.
(March 29, 2018 at 4:11 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: Other animals perceive what humans call blue. So there is such a thing as blue. Don't discount third person/entity perspective.
There is a third person way to observe blue... it's called wavelength and it is a material objective thing... and guess what? It's not blue. Blue is in the eye of the beholder and nowhere else.
Blue is only a name. If another person calls the perception of the same wavelength pickle are they both experiencing the blueness/pickleness?
(March 29, 2018 at 4:17 pm)FlatAssembler Wrote:(March 29, 2018 at 4:11 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: Other animals perceive what humans call blue. So there is such a thing as blue. Don't discount third person/entity perspective.
Other animals perceive the image on TV as being three-dimensional, that doesn't mean that it actually is. And, actually, many animal species can be proven by an experiment to be color-blind. You just think they perceive colors the same way you do because of, well, qualia.
Nope, I know that's not the case. And that was a pretty poor judgement.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental.
