RE: Pedophilia in the Bible: this is a porn book
April 1, 2018 at 9:52 pm
(This post was last modified: April 1, 2018 at 9:53 pm by Mystic.)
You can't prove slavery was practiced by Mohammad and his companions, by Quran and I said the opposite, I said you can't deduce from Quran that slavery let alone sexual slavery was allowed from my studies.
But I think historically, slavery was necessary in old times. It was a necessary evil. An evil, to deter those who would wanted to the same out of attacking, it would be a consequence in defense.
Of course, conquest is the worse. And slavery by attacking nations who want peace and didn't do anything wrong to you is the worse.
Atlas, I thought the discussion was about slavery.
I didn't think it was sexual slavery of children.
My apologies.
But I think historically, slavery was necessary in old times. It was a necessary evil. An evil, to deter those who would wanted to the same out of attacking, it would be a consequence in defense.
Of course, conquest is the worse. And slavery by attacking nations who want peace and didn't do anything wrong to you is the worse.
(April 1, 2018 at 9:32 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote:(April 1, 2018 at 7:11 am)robvalue Wrote: True, I wish they’d follow it through and produce a new sect with a Qur’an-lite that actually says what they say it says. Same with Christians.
I literally preach what the verse say.
Looks like you're confusing me for your usual apologetic Muslim.
(April 1, 2018 at 9:06 am)MysticKnight Wrote: Oh, I wouldn't defend raping children, no matter what. Didn't know that was the topic. I thought it was taken them as slaves.
You just did?
Not just that: you even said "it can be justified"? and went on to furthermore lie and defend -like any Christian apologetic- the atrocities in the OP.
(April 1, 2018 at 3:08 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: We might return to such archaic times where we need such rules again, a lot of it's ethics have context and situation.
And in these times where the proof and it's manifestation is hidden, harshness types laws are not to be implemented by those who if they implemented, would only make people incline to evil and rebellion more, like Jesus said, let those who have not done such evil to cast the first stone.
It's meant for a Guide from God to implement and interpret correctly.
You just said in this post:
Quote:We might return to such archaic times where we need such rules again, a lot of it's ethics have context and situation.
What kind of sick mentality, think that "time" is enough to "justify" an action, and time raises to the rank of a "legit context" to justify acts?
Do you realize, that you just implicitly said : "that acts like pedophilia are OK if the time is OK " ?
(April 1, 2018 at 3:29 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Sexual slavery was good then, and may someday be good again? If we "needed" it..?
Is this allahs position on the matter?
Not Allah. That's his Shiite institution he represents.
(April 1, 2018 at 3:34 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: I am not a spokesman on God, why you asking me? I am just stating how I understand things.
May God relieve the world of oppression, such that there be no slaves, both of economical type and the literal type, and restore balance to this world through his Guardian King.
Yes. you are a spokesman of the Shiite Twelver institution. Not God.
(April 1, 2018 at 3:37 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Are you confident in these excuses you've been making for magic book or aren't you?
Allah already told people to take and screw slaves. Does his "guardian king" disagree with the quran on this matter, or him? Does magic book agree with allah on this matter, or you?
Evidence Khem; please evidence.
Your accusations are disgusting and not based even on a straw.
(April 1, 2018 at 3:39 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: Does Quran contradict itself on the topic?
Not at all. Actually this topic is about the bible; not the Quran. But bible defenders flipped the table and decided to attack the Quran to shut the criticism of their Roman book up.
(April 1, 2018 at 3:39 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: My confidence is not of your concern. Deal with the arguments presented. But you never do.
What do you think? Situational ethics can have opposite verdicts in opposing situations or am I wrong about that?
Never good, just a necessary evil for a greater good.
You are one dodgy liar; but you said the truth: Rhythm never brings evidence to justify his accusation.
But you too.
Atlas, I thought the discussion was about slavery.
I didn't think it was sexual slavery of children.
My apologies.