(April 2, 2018 at 12:49 pm)Khemikal Wrote:(April 2, 2018 at 12:43 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Guys it's very easy to extract from the verse.Premise one is false.
1. There is such thing as real guidance (moral guidance that love acts by)
2. The real guidance would be guidance from God or otherwise impossible.
3. Therefore God exists.
Premise two is false
-and the conclusion doesn't follow from premise one or two anyway.
Next.
No, the conclusion follows because premise 1 states that something exists and premise 2 states that god needs to exist for that itself to exist therefore the conclusion does follow.
The problem is the premises are bullshit and MK doesn't seem to comprehend that you can make a perfectly valid argument for the existence of anything but without soundness it's doomed.