RE: Arguments for God in Quran.
April 2, 2018 at 2:45 pm
(This post was last modified: April 2, 2018 at 4:05 pm by Edwardo Piet.)
(April 2, 2018 at 2:23 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Saying you are the guide of yourself, is just stating you act on according to your will and decide, it means guidance is not necessary.
Then the only guidance I believe in is guidance from other humans, if we say I cannot guide myself.
Going back to why you need to reformulate your argument then:
What is this "moral guidance that love acts by" according to you?
This "real guidance" that you speak of 1. Needs defining and 2. You need to demonstrate that it cannot exist without a god.
So,
1. first you need to define this guidance, so we know what you're actually arguing for.
2. Then you need to argue that it exists.
3. And finally you need to demonstrate why and how God is required for its existence.
That's it. Three steps. Can't be that hard.
Simply talking about some guidance without it being clear to us what you mean, and then telling us that it exists without demonstrating that it does, and then saying that God can't exist without it without demonstrating why or how... that certainly isn't enough.
If your argument doesn't require a reformulation then neither does mine, and for the exact same reasons (they can be reasonable starting premises because I say so if yours can because you say so and my argument has the exact same logical structure).... and so from the point of view you've displayed here, we have just as much reason to believe in your real God as we do my real spell-casting wizards.