RE: Arguments for God in Quran.
April 2, 2018 at 2:59 pm
(This post was last modified: April 2, 2018 at 3:01 pm by Mystic.)
I'm not asking details, I am showing an essential problem that we don't have a source outside ourselves.
We decide, so then it's not guidance. But if we recognize guidance and act according to morals, than what is it?
Yet most humans don't treat people how they wish to be treated. But again, how do we recognize an imperative like that?
Did you decide it or are you recognizing it? If the latter, where is it the imperative to be empathetic from? Why not override it.
We decide, so then it's not guidance. But if we recognize guidance and act according to morals, than what is it?
(April 2, 2018 at 2:59 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote:(April 2, 2018 at 1:24 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: There is guidance.
And if you think about long enough, yes, you realize it requires a source.
To say there is a source of guidance would be not sequitur, but at same time, we know it's irrational to say guidance has no source.....
So what is the source of guidance for you? What is doing the guiding?
Or do you believe love is not to act according to moral guidance.
MK, you’re making this too hard.
I am a human being. I am conscious, sentient, and reasonably intelligent compared to lesser animals. In other words, I posses the basic building blocks for experiencing empathy.
I don’t want to be harmed. I don’t want to be beaten, raped, or killed, because those things hurt. I feel badly imagining other people being hurt in those ways because I can put myself in their shoes. That’s empathy, and it’s the foundation of human morality. It is by no means a comprehensive analysis of morality, but empathy is necessary. Treat others the way you would want to be treated.
See that? No god needed.
Yet most humans don't treat people how they wish to be treated. But again, how do we recognize an imperative like that?
Did you decide it or are you recognizing it? If the latter, where is it the imperative to be empathetic from? Why not override it.