(April 8, 2018 at 7:44 pm)orthodox-man Wrote:(April 8, 2018 at 7:13 am)Grandizer Wrote: OP, I thought that NDEs were the only reason you remain a Christian? Were you not telling us the truth when you said that, or is this recent new information for you?
I never even considered the shroud, but I never really researched it either. Because it was recently Easter many members of my congregation were talking about DNA proof that it was really Jesus (a man with xx chromosome), they said research and examination found there were no paint brush strokes meaning it could not have been painted, said that forensic testing in the past was proven to be flawed, and that some incredible light (as mentioned in the bible) came about when he came back to life, also creating the image, and they found 3D imagery. They also found marks on his back and areas which the bible also mentioned, so I thought it was interesting.
Ok, please try to consider this from my perspective. From my perspective, would you honestly think this would really convince me that there is something supernatural going on here, or would you say that I would simply be very skeptical here because some extraordinary claim is being made, and all I'm getting as support is "he said, she said" arguments?
It's so easy to brag about how some expert said this or that, even when that person isn't really a relevant expert on the matter or even when they get misquoted just to make one's view more favorable. But what we need are the hard cold facts, the evidence, the stuff that we can observe for ourselves and say "yep, something fucked up is happening here, and I don't know what it is". But all I get is "yeah, this guy who is so expert at bla bla bla said something awesome and smart, and they concluded that we were right about this and that, so believe me!" So disappointing.
