Burden proof is coupled with burden to listen.

[Mystic]

I have done so, I have in detail proved this, among them is the Value thread with the moon analogy.

And I don't accept what you have stated as proof to me (understanding yet dismiss). It's only proof to you.

If you wish to have a dialogue about any of the proofs I have presented over the years, I am willing to do so.


This thread is a quite a simple proposition:  

If someone is burdened to prove something to a person, the latter person is required to listen attentively and sincerely.

But we all saw you guys support bias as opposed to sincerity to truth when Jo proposed that as justification. Since you believe we evolved from animals and that is some of natural mechanism, you can justify it by your circular reasoning that will go on and on with no stop in conjecture.

Or you can at least admit, at least admit two things:

1. Sincere attentive listening is required.
2. That has not been done.

If you admit these two,  I am telling you, if there is proofs for God, they will become very easy to understand from my perspective. 

The problem with stubborn denial is that it's references itself and sees itself as intelligent doubt, deceiving itself, and is a severe dark ignorance.

You choose the way forward.  You guys want to attack me, fine.. but without sincere dialogue, truth won't be arrived at. It's quite simple proposition I am claiming here in this thread.