Burden proof is coupled with burden to listen.

[Mystic]

That was a side comment.   It's just informing of my perspective. If you want to discuss proofs regarding that, I suggest reading "Ultimate Value and the Signs of it in ourselves" thread. It's very detailed, and I've read a quite a few times, and I don't see flaws in the reasoning though I try my best to pick at it. And you should read the conversation that ensued as well so nothing get's repeated.

If you want to discuss proofs I am willing to do so. Since you agreed that sincere dialogue is required, I think, you and I should have a one on one debate about the witness/sight/perceiver argument with respect to the value of ourselves.

I will be delighted to clarify it and argue for each of it's premises. I think it's a very strong proof of God and that no human can function without believing in it (which is different then actually proving to be true), and I think showing no human functions without it although different then proving God and the argument to be all true premises leading to a sound conclusion,  shows how much you depend on it. You never didn't know a single one of it's premises, and you never lived your life without acting according to it, and you even knew the conclusion and relied on it. 

It's a matter of perceiving what you are perceiving. 

Ball is in your court, good sir!

And your side comment created the side track.

I understand that you believe that you have demonstrated proof and I accept that. What you fail to understand is that I don't believe it is proof, it is only a belief. My position is that no one can argue a god into existence. At most, people can argue that a god might exist. 

I'll say it again, no amount of metaphysical reasoning (flawed or not), no amount of signs/values in ourselves, no amount of witness/sight/perceiver argument will I ever accept as proof of a god. If the god exists as more than a concept of the human mind then the god can show up and revel itself, in person, in some form of concrete demonstration, and will need to do it multiple times, to multiple people. 

I do not wish to debate the abstract of the existence of a god. You might consider it profitable but it is pointless to me.

If God is seen by all, then we have to discuss what we are seeing.  I don't believe it's possible to exist without vision of God, I believe it's impossible.  Of course, I'm not talking about abstract vision but the living vision that creates you constantly.

I am telling you the vision reminder/proof is a very strong one in my perception and I am at least claiming that I don't find any responses from Atheists go anywhere near making any of it's premises doubtable. Let me know if you wish to debate it.