(April 22, 2018 at 5:53 pm)chimp3 Wrote:(April 22, 2018 at 5:50 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I don't know what this wager is lol. But the OP asked for a moral claim a theist can make that an atheist cannot make.
No! I asked for a moral action or statement that a theist can perform or state that an atheist can not.
The claim to moral objectivity is not a moral statement.
(April 22, 2018 at 5:51 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: In other words, as a theist I can claim that rape is objectively immoral, for example. Does that work?No! That is not a moral claim. A moral claim would be "Rape is immoral". Objectivity has nothing to do with it. Although, I sense that a rape victim has a better claim to objectivity than I.
Can't the claim I state be "rape is objectively immoral, and if you think rape is moral, you are wrong"?
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