(May 17, 2009 at 8:45 am)EvidenceVsFaith Wrote: Philosophy doesn't require you do believe in stuff without evidence (i.e - making it rightly considered to be bullshit until further notice at the very least)- faith DOES.
Philosophy would cover all religions, so that statement has to be untrue.
Quote:That's what faith is, belief without evidence.
Yup
Quote: Totally irrational.
Nope
Quote: Philosophy you can just muse about stuff you don't have to believe in it - and by it's own definition in and of itself it doesn't REQUIRE belief at all. So I don't see how it's irrational.
I didn't say it wasirrational. I said it was rational.
Quote:Thinking about anything is just open minded in a good way I think. THAT'S not your 'brains dropping out'...
You haven't considered some of the wacky & way off the wall philosophical ideas then.
Quote:Being willing to BELIEVE in anything (or belief without evidence, 'Faith' (*spits*)) THAT'S irrational.
Without evidence; with faith...
Yes, faith isn't rational.
Quote:THAT'S being so open minded that 'your brains drop out'. It's fucking ridiculous.
Nope
Quote:And yep Phil. Cool that you agree - rational faith is an oxymoron
Yup, I agree too. Shame he misquoted me :p
Quote:Because it's not rational to believe in something without evidence - guess what folks! Delusions aren't rational, they're irrational! lol.
Yup, I agree. This says nothing about faith though.