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Going Clear: Scientology and the Prison of Belief
August 13, 2015 at 2:04 am
I finally got around to watching this documentary, and I am not at all surprised at how corrupt and cult-like the organization is.
One thing that struck me that I am certain I have witnessed first-hand in a certain capacity since I live here in Clearwater where the organization has a center, is their negative views toward homosexuality.
I have encountered several clearly gay scientologist guys and it made me wonder if perhaps that was what the two opposite gender group dynamic was all about, a way for the woman to suppress the gay man's natural self by always being with him and dissuading him from what they considered "inappropriate" or "unnatural" behavior.
If you have seen it, what most bothered you about it?
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RE: Going Clear: Scientology and the Prison of Belief
August 13, 2015 at 2:06 am
There's a whole shitload of gay catholic priests, too.
IT seems they try to hide in plain sight.
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RE: Going Clear: Scientology and the Prison of Belief
August 13, 2015 at 2:27 am
(August 13, 2015 at 2:04 am)Kitan Wrote: [...]
One thing that struck me that I am certain I have witnessed first-hand in a certain capacity since I live here in Clearwater where the organization has a center, is their negative views toward homosexuality.
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Gosh, that poor Tom Cruise just can't catch a break...
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RE: Going Clear: Scientology and the Prison of Belief
August 13, 2015 at 8:11 am
I was surprised that there was this idea floating around in the documentary that LRH was a egomanical lying asshole, but was way less of a cold and calculated sociopath as his successor, and more of a troubled soul, so to speak.
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RE: Going Clear: Scientology and the Prison of Belief
November 12, 2015 at 8:19 pm
Looks like this batch of nuts is going even more nuts.
http://www.rawstory.com/2015/11/tom-crui...-his-mind/
Quote:Tom Cruise is ‘freaking out’ over Leah Remini’s Scientology tell-all: ‘She’s evil in his mind’
Of course all religious fucktards are nuts but these people are a special case.
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RE: Going Clear: Scientology and the Prison of Belief
November 12, 2015 at 8:30 pm
L. Ron hated psychiatry and made them the enemy of Scientology. There are some things to agree with him about on that, but that was in the 1950's - the discipline of psychiatry has come a very long way since then, whereas Scientology has not advanced, or recognised the legitimate contribution made by psychiatry today.
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RE: Going Clear: Scientology and the Prison of Belief
November 12, 2015 at 10:14 pm
Whatever happened to the fucking Bagwan ??
And I can only hope Miscavige is soon just as obscure.
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RE: Going Clear: Scientology and the Prison of Belief
November 12, 2015 at 11:27 pm
The 20/20 interview with Leah Remini is really interesting; IMO, Scientology only affirms the thoughts I'd already had of them, and Remini comes off with a ton of class.
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RE: Going Clear: Scientology and the Prison of Belief
November 12, 2015 at 11:37 pm
(November 12, 2015 at 10:14 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: Whatever happened to the fucking Bagwan ??
His ass got deported. The rest of him too.
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RE: Going Clear: Scientology and the Prison of Belief
November 13, 2015 at 11:37 am
(August 13, 2015 at 8:11 am)Quantum Wrote: I was surprised that there was this idea floating around in the documentary that LRH was a egomanical lying asshole, but was way less of a cold and calculated sociopath as his successor, and more of a troubled soul, so to speak.
It takes a certain kind of person to start a religion, and a different kind of person to turn it into a lasting success:
L Ron Hubbard and David Miscavage...
Joseph Smith and Brigham Young...
(November 12, 2015 at 11:27 pm)The_Empress Wrote: The 20/20 interview with Leah Remini is really interesting; IMO, Scientology only affirms the thoughts I'd already had of them, and Remini comes off with a ton of class.
It was really good to hear that when she left her family came with her. One of the most damaging things about organizations like Scientology is that it divides families in nearly irreconcilable ways by "highly encouraging" (read:forcing) members to cut ties with "supressive persons" or apostates. There were several stories from Going Clear of people who basically had to walk away from their parents, siblings or children when they left.
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