(April 22, 2018 at 7:40 pm)Hammy Wrote:(April 22, 2018 at 7:34 pm)henryp Wrote: Have you ever met someone who you disagree with that you think is smarter than you? For example, they hold some conclusion that you can't figure out how to get to, but you think they might be right?
Not yet. It's why I never need or use intuition. I don't get that thing that other people seem to get where X seems right but I don't know why. It's probably why I'm so dispassionate. Seeming and feeling seem connected.
Quote:When playing poker online, where 'people reading skills' is really just pattern recognition and problem solving, what do you think holds you back? The game theory? But game theory is really just reducing something to it's core using logic. Although, that often involves some math. Is it the math that you get hung up on? Why do you think that is? Math is so closely tied to logic, that it's an odd pairing to have a lot of one of but not the other.
I suck balls at math. Holding numbers in my head is hard. Because the numbers don't stand for anything. It's why I suck at remembering phone numbers. I find words much more memorable. It helps that I bloody love words. When I was much younger, I once spent 8 months reading the dictionary every day. What I especially found interesting was all the different but similar senses of the same word, and how often people get them confused. And, I found it very amusing looking at defintiion for really basic words like "that" lol.
I struggle with symbolic logic. That's, again, because I forget what the symbols stand for. Feels too much like algebra.
I'd be great at mathematics if I had a better short term memory, basically. I don't feel like I need one for logic because words are incredibly vivid and memorable to me.
Although it would take perhaps a little more than memory. I'd also have to find it interesting. Words fascinate me. Numbers all feel like of the same to me.
As a small child maths I adored maths. It was only after I got more fascinated in definitions and logic that maths took a back seat. Which was still from a very young age. I didn't get past the basics of maths before I moved on from it, finding it compartively dull. Although, if I were better at memorizing numbers or symbols that aren't words... perhaps I'd still find maths a lot more interesting. That's it you see, it works both ways. I get good at stuff I'm interested in and I'm interested in stuff I'm good at. I also remember stuff better when I'm more interested in it.
It's the process of logic and maths that I find interesting. And it's all logical. But words are more memorable than abstract symbols or numbers. Also, you can talk to someone in words, and think in words. You can't do that with numbers. Numbers feel very limiting to me.
What's great about symbolic logic and math, is that you can't trick it. There's no bias. There's no semantics. Bullshit only enters the equation when people start using words. That's why everyone here is always bickering over fallacies. You talk about thinking in words, rather than symbols/numbers, but symbols/numbers is so much better. Take an argument, reduce it to symbolic logic, test it for soundness, find an example that shows it's not valid, present it, and get told you're strawmanning 100% of the time.
There are definitely people who think/communicate in symbolic logic/numbers rather than words, they just rarely have anyone to talk to.
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Regarding Poker and Game Theory, math plays so heavily into those things. You're putting a really low ceiling on how good you can be at either. It's interesting your impression of what's happening at the next level is intuition. Something that's more of a trait rather than a skill. Just like you've reduced your poor math skills to a trait rather than intelligence. You could be great at math, but you've got a bad memory. You can't do anything about a bad memory or intuition, so it doesn't reflect on your intelligence that you can't move up in poker or be better at math.
When we were arguing in another thread, you brought up how stupid I was a lot of times. Is it fair to say that you place a lot of value in perceiving yourself as being much more intelligent than others? (not saying you are or aren't, just that it's very important to you.)
