(April 22, 2018 at 9:49 pm)The Industrial Atheist Wrote: The way I've seen this view, and understood this way it makes sense to me, if you had all the possible relevant details you could predict anything. Say we could analyze the chemicals in Kits brain to know what mood he would wake up in, and how that affects what color shirt he chooses, or whatever else makes Lut choose a color shirt.
This is the kind of thinking that makes me think determinism is more parsimonious and makes more sense than randomness. I believe all forms of randomness, even quantum randomness, is ultimately pseudo-randomness. Eventually things get so complex scientists become unable to predict them with accuracy, I don't think that means the causes are no longer there, they're just too complex and strange to figure out. After all, we haven't evolved with the senses to understand and appreciate things on a quantum level... and of course, every tool we use, including microscopes, telescopes, equations, mathematics... they're ultimately all tools that require our senses. Even thought comes in the form of our senses: We think in pictures, sounds, words, etc. Even thought appears to be mirroring our senses. We live through our senses. Even with ourselves, we see ourselves, feel ourselves. Literally all of our experience... comes down to our experience! I mean duh! Lol.
I think eventually things become too alien for us to figure out causes in the world, I don't think that means those causes don't exist.