(April 23, 2018 at 2:30 am)Grandizer Wrote:(April 23, 2018 at 1:41 am)henryp Wrote: Freely in libertarian just says that it's a choice, not causal determinism.
Under libertarian free will, it is possible that nothing determines the choice one makes. Logically incoherent, but that's the free will the typical theist believes in.
Quote:Prior to receiving the tape from the future, Bob can't know what Larry is going to choose, which rules out causal determinism, no?
Not necessarily. The only way to rule out causal determinism is to say that choices can be made randomly, which is not what you're assuming here. Larry still chose what he chose for a reason. And Bob simply observes that choice in advance.
I meant in the context of this discussion. To show knowledge of the future makes free will impossible, we have to pretend free will was possible to begin with.