(April 23, 2018 at 7:24 am)Hammy Wrote:
(April 23, 2018 at 6:22 am)mh.brewer Wrote: I disagree.
Well, until you actually show how blaming one's parents or malingering has absolutely anything at all to do with disbelief in free will... then you are clearly being very irrelevant.
Ironically, at least on the matter of "blaming parents" the opposite is true. It makes no sense to blame one's parents on some fundamental level if you don't believe your parents have free will... it only makes sense to do that if you do believe they have free will. Blaming one's parents is something someone who believes in the hocus-pocus kind of free will does.
You appear to be getting at something as pathetic as Pascal's Wager... like, you think that if people don't believe in free will they will use that an excuse to not bother to do things. Because it's like "Hey it's not my fault I don't have free will!"
The problem with that idea is that even if you are right it proves nothing because 1) They are still not ultimately responsible even for making those excuses 2) No one could control what they believe or disbelieve even if free will were possible.
You're basically doing something analgous with Pascal's wager so it wouldn't even work, for the same reason Pascal's Wager wouldn't work (no one can actually control what they believe) even if I was wrong about free will being impossible lol. So epic fail on your part. Even if I was wrong you'd still be wrong lol.
Like I said, it's not relevant.
I disagree. You've failed to address motive.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental.