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Oh no not another free will thread.

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Oh no not another free will thread.
Edwardo Piet Away
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RE: Oh no not another free will thread.
April 23, 2018 at 9:10 pm (This post was last modified: April 23, 2018 at 9:11 pm by Edwardo Piet.)
I think Lut and CL are both having trouble grasping what fate entails. Or even what fate is. It literally means that whatever you do, it was always going to be that way. To say you had a choice even when you couldn't have done anything else.... how does that make any sense? Choice implies more than one option.

And even if God is outside of time... we aren't, so if our actions are fated, then our actions are fated.
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Oh no not another free will thread.

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Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 22, 2018 at 8:56 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Silver - April 22, 2018 at 9:02 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 22, 2018 at 9:05 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Silver - April 22, 2018 at 9:12 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by SaStrike - April 22, 2018 at 9:35 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 22, 2018 at 9:44 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Silver - April 22, 2018 at 9:49 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by henryp - April 22, 2018 at 10:02 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by MysticKnight - April 22, 2018 at 10:10 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 22, 2018 at 10:17 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by henryp - April 22, 2018 at 10:22 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 22, 2018 at 10:25 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by brewer - April 23, 2018 at 6:22 am
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by MysticKnight - April 22, 2018 at 10:32 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 22, 2018 at 10:36 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by henryp - April 22, 2018 at 10:57 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by MysticKnight - April 22, 2018 at 10:58 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by henryp - April 22, 2018 at 11:18 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 22, 2018 at 10:10 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by henryp - April 22, 2018 at 10:54 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 22, 2018 at 11:14 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by henryp - April 22, 2018 at 11:57 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Angrboda - April 22, 2018 at 9:07 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Silver - April 22, 2018 at 9:15 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 22, 2018 at 9:13 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by MysticKnight - April 22, 2018 at 9:13 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 22, 2018 at 9:14 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 22, 2018 at 9:17 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Silver - April 22, 2018 at 9:20 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 22, 2018 at 9:32 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by LadyForCamus - April 23, 2018 at 9:03 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by MysticKnight - April 22, 2018 at 9:20 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 22, 2018 at 9:34 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Silver - April 22, 2018 at 9:24 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Silver - April 22, 2018 at 9:30 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 22, 2018 at 9:37 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by MysticKnight - April 22, 2018 at 9:26 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Silver - April 22, 2018 at 9:28 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 22, 2018 at 9:36 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Minimalist - April 22, 2018 at 9:28 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by MysticKnight - April 22, 2018 at 9:31 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Minimalist - April 22, 2018 at 9:36 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by MysticKnight - April 22, 2018 at 9:37 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Minimalist - April 22, 2018 at 9:39 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by The Valkyrie - April 22, 2018 at 9:30 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Losty - April 22, 2018 at 9:33 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Silver - April 22, 2018 at 9:33 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Silver - April 22, 2018 at 9:39 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Angrboda - April 23, 2018 at 11:08 am
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 22, 2018 at 9:42 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Silver - April 22, 2018 at 9:44 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 23, 2018 at 9:18 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 22, 2018 at 9:40 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Grandizer - April 22, 2018 at 9:44 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 22, 2018 at 9:51 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by SaStrike - April 22, 2018 at 10:04 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 22, 2018 at 9:57 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by RoadRunner79 - April 22, 2018 at 9:56 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 22, 2018 at 10:00 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Angrboda - April 23, 2018 at 11:21 am
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Silver - April 22, 2018 at 9:59 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by MysticKnight - April 22, 2018 at 9:58 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Catholic_Lady - April 22, 2018 at 10:02 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by MysticKnight - April 22, 2018 at 10:06 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Catholic_Lady - April 22, 2018 at 11:34 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Grandizer - April 22, 2018 at 11:45 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Angrboda - April 23, 2018 at 1:17 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 23, 2018 at 1:57 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 23, 2018 at 1:54 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Silver - April 22, 2018 at 10:07 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Silver - April 22, 2018 at 10:20 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by RoadRunner79 - April 22, 2018 at 10:43 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 22, 2018 at 10:46 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by RoadRunner79 - April 22, 2018 at 10:49 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 22, 2018 at 11:10 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by RoadRunner79 - April 23, 2018 at 12:32 am
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 22, 2018 at 10:21 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by brewer - April 22, 2018 at 10:24 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Silver - April 22, 2018 at 10:27 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by MysticKnight - April 22, 2018 at 10:23 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Silver - April 22, 2018 at 10:31 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Silver - April 22, 2018 at 10:33 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Silver - April 22, 2018 at 10:37 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 22, 2018 at 10:42 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Silver - April 22, 2018 at 10:44 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 22, 2018 at 10:46 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Silver - April 22, 2018 at 10:47 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 22, 2018 at 11:09 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Silver - April 22, 2018 at 11:11 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Silver - April 22, 2018 at 10:46 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Silver - April 22, 2018 at 10:54 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Grandizer - April 22, 2018 at 10:54 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by henryp - April 22, 2018 at 11:07 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Grandizer - April 22, 2018 at 11:18 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by henryp - April 23, 2018 at 12:08 am
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Grandizer - April 23, 2018 at 12:32 am
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by henryp - April 23, 2018 at 1:41 am
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Grandizer - April 23, 2018 at 2:30 am
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by henryp - April 23, 2018 at 9:07 am
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 23, 2018 at 9:12 am
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by henryp - April 23, 2018 at 9:33 am
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Silver - April 22, 2018 at 10:59 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Catholic_Lady - April 22, 2018 at 11:40 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Silver - April 22, 2018 at 11:05 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Silver - April 22, 2018 at 11:40 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 22, 2018 at 11:36 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Silver - April 22, 2018 at 11:45 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Silver - April 22, 2018 at 11:51 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Grandizer - April 23, 2018 at 12:01 am
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Silver - April 22, 2018 at 11:53 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Silver - April 22, 2018 at 11:55 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Silver - April 22, 2018 at 11:57 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Silver - April 23, 2018 at 12:03 am
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Silver - April 23, 2018 at 12:10 am
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Catholic_Lady - April 23, 2018 at 12:20 am
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Silver - April 23, 2018 at 12:24 am
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Silver - April 23, 2018 at 12:30 am
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Silver - April 23, 2018 at 12:32 am
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Silver - April 23, 2018 at 12:35 am
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Silver - April 23, 2018 at 12:36 am
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Silver - April 23, 2018 at 12:41 am
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Sal - April 23, 2018 at 6:36 am
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 23, 2018 at 7:24 am
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by brewer - April 23, 2018 at 9:10 am
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by bennyboy - April 23, 2018 at 8:05 am
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 23, 2018 at 8:07 am
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Angrboda - April 23, 2018 at 1:30 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by bennyboy - April 23, 2018 at 8:46 am
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 23, 2018 at 8:59 am
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by MysticKnight - April 23, 2018 at 11:22 am
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 23, 2018 at 11:55 am
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by MysticKnight - April 23, 2018 at 1:20 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by MysticKnight - April 23, 2018 at 1:28 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by MysticKnight - April 23, 2018 at 1:31 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by MysticKnight - April 23, 2018 at 1:34 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Angrboda - April 23, 2018 at 1:52 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Angrboda - April 23, 2018 at 2:17 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by MysticKnight - April 23, 2018 at 1:53 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 23, 2018 at 2:05 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by MysticKnight - April 23, 2018 at 1:56 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by MysticKnight - April 23, 2018 at 2:05 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 23, 2018 at 2:09 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by MysticKnight - April 23, 2018 at 2:13 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by MysticKnight - April 23, 2018 at 2:08 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 23, 2018 at 2:13 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by MysticKnight - April 23, 2018 at 2:14 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 23, 2018 at 2:15 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by MysticKnight - April 23, 2018 at 2:15 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 23, 2018 at 2:16 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 23, 2018 at 2:18 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by MysticKnight - April 23, 2018 at 2:20 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by MysticKnight - April 23, 2018 at 2:18 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 23, 2018 at 2:24 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by MysticKnight - April 23, 2018 at 2:25 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 23, 2018 at 2:27 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by henryp - April 23, 2018 at 2:42 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 23, 2018 at 2:51 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by henryp - April 23, 2018 at 2:58 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Grandizer - April 23, 2018 at 5:02 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 23, 2018 at 5:11 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Angrboda - April 23, 2018 at 4:01 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Grandizer - April 23, 2018 at 4:59 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 23, 2018 at 5:38 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Grandizer - April 23, 2018 at 6:25 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 23, 2018 at 6:26 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Grandizer - April 23, 2018 at 6:48 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 23, 2018 at 8:01 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Grandizer - April 23, 2018 at 8:55 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by MysticKnight - April 23, 2018 at 2:54 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 23, 2018 at 4:19 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Angrboda - April 23, 2018 at 5:38 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 23, 2018 at 5:46 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 23, 2018 at 6:52 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 23, 2018 at 8:22 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 23, 2018 at 8:59 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Catholic_Lady - April 24, 2018 at 12:41 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 23, 2018 at 9:10 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by The Valkyrie - April 23, 2018 at 9:12 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by brewer - April 24, 2018 at 1:33 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 24, 2018 at 1:59 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by brewer - April 24, 2018 at 2:02 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 24, 2018 at 2:45 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by LadyForCamus - April 23, 2018 at 9:26 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 23, 2018 at 9:29 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 24, 2018 at 1:24 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 24, 2018 at 1:29 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Whateverist - April 24, 2018 at 2:58 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by LadyForCamus - April 24, 2018 at 4:33 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by henryp - April 24, 2018 at 4:22 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 24, 2018 at 4:40 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by henryp - April 24, 2018 at 4:47 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 24, 2018 at 4:51 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by henryp - April 24, 2018 at 4:58 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 24, 2018 at 5:01 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Grandizer - April 24, 2018 at 8:27 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by henryp - April 24, 2018 at 8:34 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Grandizer - April 24, 2018 at 8:40 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 24, 2018 at 9:09 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by henryp - April 25, 2018 at 10:22 am
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 25, 2018 at 8:55 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by henryp - April 25, 2018 at 10:32 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 26, 2018 at 4:22 am
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by henryp - April 26, 2018 at 9:22 am
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 26, 2018 at 9:36 am
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Angrboda - April 25, 2018 at 1:26 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Grandizer - April 25, 2018 at 9:24 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 25, 2018 at 9:32 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by henryp - April 24, 2018 at 5:01 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 24, 2018 at 5:04 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by henryp - April 24, 2018 at 5:07 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 24, 2018 at 5:08 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 24, 2018 at 6:31 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by henryp - April 24, 2018 at 8:51 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by henryp - April 26, 2018 at 9:47 am
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 26, 2018 at 10:13 am
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by henryp - April 26, 2018 at 10:46 am
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 26, 2018 at 11:07 am
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 26, 2018 at 6:23 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by LadyForCamus - April 26, 2018 at 1:11 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by henryp - April 26, 2018 at 1:22 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 26, 2018 at 7:32 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Angrboda - April 26, 2018 at 11:16 am
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 26, 2018 at 11:48 am
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by henryp - April 26, 2018 at 1:08 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 26, 2018 at 3:29 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by henryp - April 26, 2018 at 3:43 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 26, 2018 at 5:16 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 26, 2018 at 5:00 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by henryp - April 26, 2018 at 7:09 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 26, 2018 at 7:17 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by henryp - April 26, 2018 at 8:17 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 26, 2018 at 8:29 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Silver - April 26, 2018 at 7:20 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by bennyboy - April 26, 2018 at 5:10 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by henryp - April 26, 2018 at 9:22 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 26, 2018 at 10:19 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by LadyForCamus - April 26, 2018 at 10:23 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 26, 2018 at 10:30 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by henryp - April 27, 2018 at 8:18 am
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Edwardo Piet - April 27, 2018 at 11:20 am
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Catholic_Lady - April 26, 2018 at 10:26 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Catholic_Lady - April 26, 2018 at 11:07 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by LadyForCamus - April 27, 2018 at 8:58 am
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by henryp - April 27, 2018 at 9:17 am
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by henryp - April 27, 2018 at 2:40 pm
RE: Oh no not another free will thread. - by Succubus - April 27, 2018 at 10:38 pm

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