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Theists: Hitchens Wager
RE: Theists: Hitchens Wager
(April 23, 2018 at 9:48 am)Khemikal Wrote:
(April 23, 2018 at 6:59 am)chimp3 Wrote: Motivation! Still , not a moral action.

Wouldn't it be more accurate, then, to say that you're looking for some superhuman ability that believers have?  Obviously there's no action that a believers body is solely capable of engaging in..nor is there any string of words that only a believers mouth can form.

That's not hitchens wager, at all..though.....?  It's closely approaching a trivially meaningless question with no point..or, at least, the only possible point allowed as a credible answer would have to be superhuman abilities....which none of us possess.  Meanwhile, there are things that believers do that atheists don't, and vv, on account of differences in their respective position on gods.  This much is self evidently true...classifying every difference as a motivation means that there is no answer you'd accept, not because there is no meaningful or valid answer.....but because you've constrained the field of answers you'd accept to inanity.

I disagree. Hitchens wager is concise, not constrained to inanity. It opens the field of answers to all moral actions and statements. The fact that there is no valid response is not the fault of the questioner. Perhaps constraining the question of morality to human thought.
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Theists: Hitchens Wager - by chimp3 - April 22, 2018 at 11:39 am
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