(April 24, 2018 at 2:17 am)robvalue Wrote: Okay, so he does indeed choose that I'll be tortured, as a result of actions he picked for me. And he chooses to send you here to defend his actions. It's all a very strange torture fetish he has, and he obviously needs to justify it to himself. If this is all true, I can't blame you for defending it.
If it's wrong however, you're choosing to say that I deserve to be tortured for not being a Muslim.
It's interesting how this God chooses to make characters like me in his little theatre which feel that he's a disgusting sadist. He must get extra enjoyment from being able to deliver righteous torture to me later.
Sending someone to his defense, whose defense involves telling me I have no choice over the actions I'm being judged for, is very strange. It's not a very good defense. So I guess he's not very good at justifying it to himself.
It's not about "You" as rob or me. But it's about how the universe came to exist; how existence itself came to exist.
Meaning is: the universe is standing on the balance between the positive and the negative. That's how God willed it.
Hell and torture are nothing more but the sad negative. Just like stars swallowing whole galaxies, black holes eating the rocks we call home.
Hell is a natural phenomena. So as fate -science call it space/time.pictured as a sliced loaf of bread. Each slice contains our actions in the given time:
http://www.columbia.edu/cu/alumni/Magazi...green.html
Isn't that fate? God is the manipulator who can see through every slice of bread.
I would just say that when someone's family dies because of an earthquake, it feels so much different than a gang raping them one by one then execute them. The agony of the latter, if imagined, can give you more insight into what I'm saying:
when humans torture, it's so wrong and feels so different than when a natural disaster roars at you.
