RE: The Quran and The Prohibiting of Pedophilia? Marriage Contracts
April 25, 2018 at 5:20 pm
(This post was last modified: April 25, 2018 at 5:26 pm by WinterHold.)
(April 24, 2018 at 4:13 am)robvalue Wrote: What does "natural" mean? Hasn't God pre-programmed everything?
I'm afraid what you're saying makes no sense to me. At least, it's no excuse for god's actions. There's torture because he wanted torture. Is there some sort of restriction God had to work around? What's the point of any of this anyway? We're just actors in his theatre that he decided would be self-aware.
His restriction is righteousness and balance; in their purest and most perfect form.
Look at these verses:
Quote:Sura 55, The Quran:
( 1 ) The Most Merciful
( 2 ) Taught the Qur'an,
( 3 ) Created man,
( 4 ) [And] taught him eloquence.
( 5 ) The sun and the moon [move] by precise calculation,
( 6 ) And the stars and trees prostrate.
( 7 ) And the heaven He raised and imposed the balance
( 8 ) That you not transgress within the balance.
( 9 ) And establish weight in justice and do not make deficient the balance.
He created the balance and chose it as means for his rule. Whichever comes first: the choice or the creation.
That's God's standard if you asked me. For evil; their must be good. For rich; there must be poor. Eat a lot; you get fat.
That's how I see it. And that's what the verse taught me at least:respect the balance and you'll succeed.
If you ask me why we exist; I'll directly answer: because the balance dictates so. God chose it as a standard.
(April 24, 2018 at 6:42 am)Tizheruk Wrote: Nope if god chooses to create a universe with disasters he's as evil as a gang who tortures people . And no the bullshit excuse that there is a super secret hidden meaning is just that . By that logic any criminal could say "i had a super secret reason to murder 22 people therefore you can't find me guilty . If i would not believe him why would i believe a god .
In your human perspective they are disasters.
In the perspective of others entities, they are the givers of life.
(April 24, 2018 at 7:22 am)robvalue Wrote: I can't figure out what atlas is trying to say, he seems to be simultaneously claiming that God is behind everything; but there's some other force at work or some inevitabilities which remove responsibilty from God. Mind you, that is the most common mindset I encounter.
No, there is other force; I assure you
