Oh no not another free will thread.

[Edwardo Piet]

Your second level is nonsense.  Which is fine.

That's just what people say to me when they've repeatedly made it clear to me they have no idea what the fuck I'm talking about.

 There's nothing wrong with pondering things.  But it carries 0 weight.  So you using it as an escape hatch to get out of a position you don't like is theistic.

Do you not know the distinction between epistemology and metaphysics? "What we're capable of knowing" and "what actually exists" don't mean the same thing, you know.

I'm not being theistic at all... you keep completely misrepresenting what I am actually saying and ignoring my arguments, failing to notice a distinction and thinking more follows from science than it actually does. Why the fuck am I even wasting my time on your underwhelming self when I know you are both categorically and absolutely 100% wrong about what you're saying and you're clearly not open to or capable of understanding my point? Oh yeah... I'm bored. And I have no one better to talk to. Literally LadyForCamus is the only person nowadays who I seem to be able to actually have a proper discussion about this sort of stuff with (so far). Even when we disagree she at least listens to my point of view and doesn't mischaracterize it. When she doens't understand it she asks me to clarify. None of this stuff where you're basically saying stuff like "I don't understand what you're saying so rather than ask for clarification I'll just double down on my own simplistic viewpoint and assume it's nonsense and as bad as theism when really I'm just unable to distinguish between the world and the world as it is known".

Objective world outside of science?  Can you word the question more clearly.  What constitutes 'inside of science.'

I've already spoke of it repeatedly. Science deals with phenomena, not noumena. Science is empirical: It deals with reality as we experience it. It doesn't deal with objective reality outside of our experience of it.

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Might as well be talking about intelligent design.  It's the same "Yeah, but what about my poorly formed baseless opinion!  Did you take that into consideration!"

Er... no.

Characterize my view for me in your own words. Let's see if you actually understand what I'm saying. Maybe that will stop you strawmanning me. I'm not asserting anything that contradicts science... you just keep misunderstanding what I'm actually saying.