Oh no not another free will thread.

[Edwardo Piet]

I'm basing it on the fact that most of reality seems to make sense so I think once you get the quantum reality it just becomes too difficult to find the causes and they may be beyond human understanding. I'm down to an intution which is absolutely fine because I'm not talking about anything that is testable than science. And the quantum world may be acausal as we experience it but much of life seems very causal. I don't think the quantum world is an indication of the causality of reality as a whole. I think it's an indication of reality becoming too complex and alien for us to find the causes. Ultimately I think all causes happen outside of our experience, which makes a lot of sense intuitively to me.

When I compare what you're doing to theism, this is why.  It's too complex.  It's too alien.  It's not testable.  It seems, it's intuitive, I think, it makes sense, etc... .  Science has it's limits.  

Maybe we can get a theist to stop by, and ask them if these are a lot of the core tenets involved with why they think there is a God, because it absolutely is the same way they frame their arguments.

You're really only here to strawman me aren't you? What a waste of time it is talking to you. I'm talking about whatever is outside of science if there is anything outside of science, and my intuitions about that personally, and you are consistently and repeatedly responding by ignoring that point that has been made very clearly repeatedly to you... by responding as if I'm talking about what's inside the realms of science.

Answer these two questions or I'm done talking to you about this on this thread as you're clearly not here to address what I'm saying if you're not willing to answer these two questions: 1) If there is anything outside of science, can you appreciate that an intuition about that being fundamentally acausal is at least no less intuitive and unscientific than my intuition about it being causal? 2) What is the metaphysical distinction between philosophical indeterminism about reality as a whole including noumenal reality on the one hand, and scientific quantum indeterminacy as understood epistemically via the empirical methodologies of science about the reality of phenomena on the other hand?

Because you really seem to get your philosophy and your science mixed up, and your epistemology and your ontology mixed up.