In the beginning....

[Godscreated]

Ever see a cabbage that's ten foot tall and looks like a small tree or large bush.

Staggering ignorance.

The ignorance is your's, we are speaking about a certain plant of the mustard family that was more than likely used for it's oil.

Second the mustard seed is the smallest of seeds known to the Jews of that day. Jesus used this as a proverbial statement to show how something so small can become so large in comparison of size.


Jesus knew about everything He created, it was the Jews who knew of no smaller seed and it was used as a proverbial statement even before Jesus time.

Jesus created nothing

You are arguing from ignorance, you have made a statement you know nothing about, so now give me proof of your statement out side of a theory that can't be proven. 

The mustard plant that Jesus was speaking of could grow up to ten feet tall and there are trees that are shorter than that.



Yes 8 to 10 feet tall better check, I have and it is still being used today.

Wrong. The variety in question is Sinapis hirta 2 feet, you lose.

So quick to claim victory and to ignorant to know you're wrong. The seed group that Jesus referred to is the lachana group, this would be all the plants planted for food in Israel. Brassica nigra is the plant Jesus was referring to.

The Rabbis used this proverbial saying before Jesus did, it is a way to convey a meaning.

Now your showing how stupid you are, using a common statement is not plagiarism.

Now your claim is that jesus the jew had no original thought of his own, he was just regurgitating commonplace sayings of the time. Why do you hate jesus so much?

You are trying to say something that's not true of me and you try and do so by showing disrespect for Jesus by incorrectly spelling His name. Jesus was using a statement that was popular with the people of Israel at the time, something that they could relate to. Jesus is the originator of thought as God the Son. You are failing so much I would think you would quit and try something else.

Boy for someone who says the Bible can't be taken literally you sure find it convenient to take it literally to prove your point when the passage was never meant to be literal or scientific.

The only ones who believe the Bible can't be literal are those who do not believe and thus they can't be trusted to tell the truth, yes I mean you.

Make up your mind. You have both asserted and disavowed literalism. Which is it?

I've always claimed the Bible is 100% true and still do, I've said that the parables were stories to bring out truth and do not have to be absolutely literal to do so. It is you who is wishy washy only for the reason to prove to yourself you are right, you fool no one.

Mustard was considered a very important herb in all it's forms for thousands of years, from a food source to medicine. 

The Epic of Gilgamesh gave dimensions on the arc and how it was to be built, when one was built to a much smaller size it virtually sank right from the get go. The Arc of the Bible has been shown to be a stable vessel and one that could have taken sever poundings from raging seas. The mustard is 5000 years in use and it was used in ancient Chinese medicine long before Jesus came to earth. You better study harder or stay out of these discussions. By the way a condiment is a food source.

Why must you lie? The Ark has been demonstrated to be an auto-shipwreck.

You knew so little of the story of Gilgamesh that you didn't even know that the people who were trying to disavow the truth of Noah's Arc by building a small replica of the arc in the Gilgamesh story were failures. They even tried to use electric pumps to remove enough water so it would float, when they turned them off to the bottom it would go. Models of Noah's Arc have been show to be sea worthy even in the roughest of storms.

 I like this, "almost certain," meaning we do not know. The Jewish people prided themselves in being completely accurate in the retelling of stories so the meaning wouldn't be lost to the next generation. No communication doesn't work that way, spicing up a story to make it more interesting and less believable does though, you know like the stories the atheist here tell about the Word of God.


Jesus never came to endorse those laws, he came to fulfill the moral laws

Mat. 5:18-19

Giving verses without explanation is like trying to start a car without gas in it, you're going nowhere fast. The above bold by me is still my response and is held up by the scriptures.

and since you seem to have a claim that Adam and Eve never existed you have some proving to do,

No, I actually do not. We know that humans have been about for circa 200,000 years. Genetics tells us precisely who descends from whom. The bible lies. The Adam and Eve crap is stupid on it's face.

By genetics we know there was an original mother and by the unreliable science of age dating we can not trust those dating methods or there results. Because of there unreliability I will not even accept them for trying to prove biblical dates and/or items.

there is one set of commandments not three different ones.

I didn't realise you had not read the bible.

I know more about the scriptures than you will ever know in your immediate condition. There is only one set of The Ten Commandments, if you were to read the Bible you would find this out, but instead you are willing to let the foolish make you look foolish.

Exactly why do you believe Jesus needed to cite more than five of the Commandments, what rule says he had to give all ten, got any answers for these questions?

Which did he include and which did he exclude? Why?

And that reply seems to be answers to you, you need to grow up.

They do not conflict, one just gives some detail of the other, someone who flaunts his own great mental capacity ought to be able to see that. neither conflict with real science, the so called Big Pop theory is in conflict with what God tells us happened.

They do conflict. You clearly have not read the miserable book. The big bang theory conforms with reality, god does not.

You have said this twice now yet you haven't shown it to be a reality. It's you who couldn't have read the Bible or you would know it isn't a miserable book, instead you would find it a book full of life. The big pop is not reality, it has so many problems that science has quit trying to explain them away and just ignore them.

He didn't Joshua finished that book.

You made a funny. Do tell how you know that.

Nothing funny about it, stands to reason that Moses couldn't have written the end after He was dead and Joshua was the next in line as the leader and spokesman for Israel. Reasoning is a good thing, try it sometime.

  What's obvious is you do not have an inkling of understanding of the scriptures, you only repeat what you've heard and not knowing what you have heard is true or false makes you the gullible one. Apparently you do not care whether false statements made by others and repeated by you make you look stupid. 
Because God is eternal and omnipresent it means He has been everywhere, He has already been into the future because He has always been there. God knew where Adam and Eve were, He called to them as a loving father would call to his child who had done wrong and was hiding. Dad knew the child was hiding in the bedroom just as God the Father knew where Adam and Eve were hiding. For someone who claims to be smart you do show a great lack of common sense and reasoning. The chariots did not stop God from working it was the disobedience of the Israelites, punishment sometimes come when one least expects it. You are always moving in on my discussions with other and I can only assume you have nothing better to do or you feel left out. I've answered all you posted and you might as well be satisfied with that because I am not going to answer your reply, I'm to busy to be bothered with such stupid replies.

GC

Ah. When your abject ignorance is exposed, even about your own book, you have no resort other than to hurl insults. #how very "christian" of you.

 There is much I do not know about the scriptures, ten life times wouldn't be enough for anyone, God is constantly teaching people new things from His written eternal wisdom. By the way insults would be something that's not true about someone and I do not see I've said anything about you that's not true. So yes by telling the truth is a Christian response.

GC

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2 Thessalonians 2   (KJV)
11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.


It occurs to me some who might think they are of God might nevertheless lie about God's ability to lie  . . . .

I've given answers to this several times and you are still unable to understand, why?

GC