(May 1, 2018 at 12:45 pm)possibletarian Wrote: I never had a problem with moral values, even when I was Christian.
I saw enough of humanity in them (good and bad) to not believe ever they were objective, at least in the way theists present it.
But most of all I never saw why it was used as an argument for god, as I never understood why morals need to be objective anyway, they simply had to be agreed upon, indoctrinated, or enforced.
Exactly! Theists who love propping up the moral argument don't seem to realize that a good enough system is by definition good enough when it comes to the matter of morality. But no, they insist it has to be perfect and ultimate for morality to be a thing. Never understood such terrible logic even when I was a Christian myself.
