RE: My view and reasons for them. Atheist and Christians welcome here. (short)
May 7, 2018 at 11:33 pm
(This post was last modified: May 7, 2018 at 11:33 pm by Quick.)
(May 7, 2018 at 11:27 pm)Khemikal Wrote:(May 7, 2018 at 11:22 pm)Quick Wrote: Kids grow into adults who can change their minds.Didn't you -just- finishing telling us that you were neurologically wired for belief by early indoctrination?
Sure. People can make small changes to their belief system as they age. I have found basically the bare minimum of what is necessary for me to believe.
(May 7, 2018 at 11:27 pm)Khemikal Wrote:(May 7, 2018 at 11:22 pm)Quick Wrote: I'm not. As you have implied, my beliefs are somewhat surprising to you.
Probably not in the way you're imagining. These little mini convos I;m having with you..this isn;t the first, second, third, fourth, fifth, or sixth time I;ve had to explain to someone that not knowing shit doesn;t "ergo god". In that sense, your beliefs are entirely common. I guess I;ve been here a few years..and it wouldn;t surprise me if I;d heard this particular bit hundreds of times.
I'm not claiming I believe anything that is completely uncommon.
(May 7, 2018 at 11:28 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote:(May 6, 2018 at 1:52 pm)Quick Wrote: I find this forum to be much of a dance (Re: christians being here [haven't run into any muslims yet])... I find whatever one's beliefs, one must learn the steps, and in that there is an inherent flaw: people are not thinking for themselves.
My opinion is this: You have been taught the steps, what more is your belief than that? I don't believe many people thought up the idea there is no God on their own since historically speaking, humans have believed a God exists. So I don't think they came to the conclusion themselves, but that this is something that is taught (or worse, they are simply believing in an antithesis). The point here is that people are not thinking for themselves. I will say I am not a hypocrite in this manner considering I came to the only reasonable conclusion I could make, which is that in the debate of whether God is real or not, I find the only reasonable explanation is that I don't know, which leads me to thinking that because there is a debate about God in the first place that someone somewhere must be on to something a long time ago, which leads me to believing everything is miraculous and everything is God.
If everything is god, why does it need the identifier god? Does simply everything not suffice?
I talk about this later, but believing in a God gives me purpose.
But your individuality and your present need will be swept away by change,
and what you now ardently desire will one day become the object of abhorrence.
~ Schiller - 'Psychological Types'