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My view and reasons for them. Atheist and Christians welcome here. (short)
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RE: My view and reasons for them. Atheist and Christians welcome here. (short)
(May 7, 2018 at 9:41 pm)Quick Wrote: Fair enough. Not sure why you say Atheism isn't a world view however, that confuses the shit out of me honestly.

Because atheism is the position on only one claim.

Theists claim a god or gods exist, atheists disbelieve that claim. FULL STOP.

How can a worldview come from that?

I do have other worldviews that are compatible with atheism. I am a secular humanist. I am a Skeptic. Those are 2 of my worldviews.

Quote:Thanks for clearing that up. But now I am really confused because you said atheism is a position on belief/disbelief which IMO are both basically the same thing.

Theists believe in at least one god. Atheists lack that belief.

Quote:My justification for believing what I do is that it gives a sense of purpose that I otherwise wouldn't have. Knowing I fit into something larger and significant gives me direction and motivation to be at peace. But my belief isn't an organized belief system like you see in christianity, islam, hinduism, rastafari (had fun with that one), or any other organized religion. It's simply the belief that there is something bigger than myself that is out there and that in knowing this, it gives me purpose. If I know I was meant to be here, even if it isn't necessarily true, this gives me enough justification for believing what I do.


That way of thinking is completely foreign to me.

I want to believe things that are true, and disbelieve things that are untrue. Believing something because it makes me feel all warm and fuzzy is intellectual dishonesty, and gullibility.

I can't even begin to get myself into the headspace of basing my beliefs in what I want to be true, instead of what is actually true.

As far as wanting to be part of something that is greater than me, I am a part of the human race. My existence is a series of random events, that lead to the fertilization of one egg, by one of millions of sperm. I feel truly privileged to exist in this time.

I create my own purpose. Funny, but if someone dictated your career choices, the college you attended, the woman you must marry, your hobbies, the art you like, the music you listen to, etc, you'd probably rebel. But you are fine with getting your purpose from an outside source.

You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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RE: My view and reasons for them. Atheist and Christians welcome here. (short) - by Simon Moon - May 8, 2018 at 12:36 pm

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