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My view and reasons for them. Atheist and Christians welcome here. (short)
RE: My view and reasons for them. Atheist and Christians welcome here. (short)
(May 9, 2018 at 2:57 am)ignoramus Wrote:
Quote:"Which, sure, but there is no evidence that life should exist either and yet here we are."

Uhmm... have you looked in the mirror lately ... Aren't you exhibit A in the flesh? Is that not evidence?

If people thought about the implications of what I say/type, I don't think I would be as misunderstood. Right, I am here which means life exists. I was talking about how life began. We don't know much about why we are here to begin with. I ment in a big picture way of looking at what evidence we have to justify our existence. No, I am not saying "God dune it" I am simply pointing out that life is something that can't yet be explained. As such, when the topic was brought up (I really wish you could have actually quoted me so I could see the context of what we were talking about specifically), I was making a point that was the other side of the coin. It was an analogy from the PoV that life was the same as the other thing that was brought up. It was for compare and contrast.

(May 9, 2018 at 3:06 am)robvalue Wrote:
(May 9, 2018 at 2:45 am)Quick Wrote: I suppose it might help if you told me some of the different kinds of atheists.

Well, there's three categories, depending on how strong the stance is the particular atheist takes.

Agnostic atheist 1: Has no belief in God, but has no belief that there isn't a God either. Undecided. This is all you can assume about any particular atheist unless they tell you otherwise. (Sometimes referred to as "weak atheism"). Probably the most common atheist.

Agnostic atheist 2: Believes there is no God, but doesn't claim to know for sure. (Sometimes referred to as "strong atheism").

Gnostic atheist: Claims to know for sure there is no God. (Also sometime referred to as "strong atheism", so be careful.) By far the least common atheist, in my experience.

That's it. There's no requirements to believe anything else, to hold any opinions on anything, or support any particular causes.

Of course, every individual atheist will have their own beliefs and values, just as theists will, so it's best to simply ask rather than assume.

PS: I forgot one category, which is ironic since I'm in it.

Ignostic atheist: Thinks the term "God" is essentially meaningless, and is too vague and tailored to individual theists to make any conclusions about. It's unfalsifiable at best and incoherent at worst.

Thanks, this paints a better picture for me because I can imagine what these different atheists are like in some respects.

I guess when I think of atheist, I generally think of someone like Dawkins and as the toolbag that he is, he comes across like a right prick. There have been other debates I have been in with atheist that come across this way as well. It think it's probably that the people who make the most extreme stances tend to care the most about their stances. Otherwise there's really no motivation to "fight" against someone who believes something different than you.
But your individuality and your present need will be swept away by change, 
and what you now ardently desire will one day become the object of abhorrence. 
~ Schiller - 'Psychological Types'
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RE: My view and reasons for them. Atheist and Christians welcome here. (short) - by Quick - May 9, 2018 at 3:23 am

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