RE: My view and reasons for them. Atheist and Christians welcome here. (short)
May 9, 2018 at 7:36 am
(This post was last modified: May 9, 2018 at 7:38 am by Quick.)
(May 9, 2018 at 7:10 am)vulcanlogician Wrote:(May 9, 2018 at 6:37 am)Quick Wrote: It's a question of scale, not principle.
Elaborate on that. I mean, even in one religion, Christianity, proponents have slaughtered members of their own faith because of differences in denomination. Does that make these differences significant? One war, The Thirty Years War (Catholics vs Protestants), is one of the longest in European history. So if your looking for scale, lots of blood has been shed for what today we regard as an insignificant difference in religious practice.
Part. 1: Right. It doesn't actually matter who is fighting who or or what the exact beliefs for this war were. What matters is that one group of people had a view on something and another group of people had a completely different view on that same something and because of this a bunch of people got killed. Now, this something that these people disagreed on matters because this was not the first time something like this happened for very similar reasons and it will not be the last time either. My point is that this thing is a very integral part of being a human and as such, because of this thing, people are going to die. Even if you were to try and take a neutral stance (by a people or individual, it doesn't matter) eventually you will have to make a stance on this thing one way or another and based on this it will determine a great many things about you (and possibly how you die as well).
Part 2: Obviously, the principle of something is going to matter in some sense in some way, but there is also a degree of scale/magnitude that this thing may or may not have. So when I say it is a matter of scale and not principle, what I am saying is that the principle of said thing doesn't need to be all that significant just due to the principle in and of itself, but if there is a great scale/magnitude on said principle, regardless of how significant it is, it is something that is going to influence how you see the world. Ex. the algorithms that youtube uses to keep you glued to it. This is an order of magnitude/scale because without a huge portion of the population taking part in youtube, those algorithms don't mean much because of how many people it takes for these algorithms to pick up anything meaningful. Insert belief in God for for the algorithm youtube uses and it's the same thing.
Does that make sense?
(May 9, 2018 at 7:10 am)vulcanlogician Wrote:(May 9, 2018 at 6:37 am)Quick Wrote: Also, there are some New Age woo woo folks who think the moon is hollow. Astrophysicists do not agree with their assessment. Science has determined that the moon is pretty much solid rock. Does that make the rest of us "solidarians"? Thinking the moon is hollow is a big deal to some of these woo folks. To me, I'm like: "Meh. There's no evidence for what you think."Ah, a fellow Solidarian. Nice to meet you, brother. And thanks for the magma core info... I didn't know.
Yes, i would be happy to consider you a solidarian (I had to look it up), but in truth I basically found out the moon has a liquid core by mere chance considering I subscribe to a science article website that has pop ups whenever they have a new article that I almost never read. I just so happened to look at this one. It was my mood/external factors that made the decision for me, which is not true for everything I end up doing.
But your individuality and your present need will be swept away by change,
and what you now ardently desire will one day become the object of abhorrence.
~ Schiller - 'Psychological Types'