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My view and reasons for them. Atheist and Christians welcome here. (short)
RE: My view and reasons for them. Atheist and Christians welcome here. (short)
(May 9, 2018 at 8:36 am)Khemikal Wrote:
(May 9, 2018 at 5:54 am)Quick Wrote: IDK. IDK how far back in our evolution that a belief in God goes so I can't really say whether it's more natural for humans to believe in a God or not. I guess it is a question of if if other animals had an advanced language system whether they would believe in God or not and I really can't answer that. This might sound foolish, but in some regards I can totally see some animals paying homage to a creator. I know I said elsewhere on this forum that animals don't have the capacity to believe in a God, but if their language systems were more robust, based on their psychology, I can't rule out that they would believe in a God.

I can help with that.  We're natural animists, cultural deists, and societal theists.  

Life is about 3.5byo.  Our genus is 1.5-2.5myo.  By 50k years ago we began expressing animistic beliefs through ritual burials and funerary goods.  Somewhere between 13-10k years ago we see evidence of deism in ritual/worship complexes and religious art.  1.7k years ago.....christianity was born.

We learn the cultural and societal specifics - but we're all born with the innate propensity to invest inanimate objects with intent and anthropomorphize them.  Predicting the behavior and internal states of other sentient creatures is an important skill for us, though constantly searching out this information has lead to vast misattribution.  

Misattribution will take us to animism.  Just talking about what we're talking about with the previous misattribution will lead us to cultural deism, and laying out the specifics of some interaction with the gods established in the step prior between members of a group in a larger culture gives us societal theism.

Beyond that point we'd be discussing the religious economy, as competing sects of belief attempt to secure a share of the available space.  If I had to place pantheism in that schema, for example...I;d suggest that it leveraged strategies from the religious economy to provide a modern animism.  Conceptualized as the sacred it's straight animist analog.  Conceptualized as the divine...it;s theism for animists.

In that sense, it can satisfy the "natural" component of the development of our belief in the sacred or divine.  Neither culture nor society are heritable traits The answer to the question of whether or not people are born with god beliefs is no. We're barely cognizant of anything when we're born.

Thanks for explaining that.

I have to ask how you know that in a vacuum that humans defer to not believing in God when left to their own devices. (I am not sure this is what you are saying, however.) I say this because you state culture/society function isn't hardwired into us. I don't know how/why you make this claim.
But your individuality and your present need will be swept away by change, 
and what you now ardently desire will one day become the object of abhorrence. 
~ Schiller - 'Psychological Types'
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RE: My view and reasons for them. Atheist and Christians welcome here. (short) - by Quick - May 9, 2018 at 8:42 am

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