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The Problem with Pascal's Wager
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RE: The Problem with Pascal's Wager
(May 10, 2018 at 7:17 pm)Rhondazvous Wrote: I understand. If you were forced to believe it is true, then you have to believe that you believe it is true because it is true. If you didn't believe that you believe it is true because it is true, then you don't believe it is true and haven't been forced to believe it's true.

Well... I could believe something was true without it being true, of course.

The point is that whether it's logical or illogical reasoning that compels me to believe... reasoning compels me to believe.

Not in God of course. In that argument against free will I was talking about. Or anything else I believe to be true or false.

And... when I was younger I used to think that if God was real then as an atheist I'd be going to hell. But I don't believe that anymore. And despite the fact I would have happily believed in God just to avoid hell... I didn't because I couldn't force myself to believe. But thankfully there was also the anti-pascal's wager: I'd be wasting my life if I believed in God because there's a 99.999999999% chance that God doesn't exist and that there is no afterlife so to spend the one life I have wasting all my time praying to something that doesn't exist would be wasting my whole life away.

Of course, that anti-wager is just as useless... because even if I chose to pray that wouldn't make me actually believe.
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The Problem with Pascal's Wager - by Rhondazvous - May 10, 2018 at 4:39 pm
RE: The Problem with Pascal's Wager - by Edwardo Piet - May 10, 2018 at 5:53 pm
RE: The Problem with Pascal's Wager - by Edwardo Piet - May 10, 2018 at 6:17 pm
RE: The Problem with Pascal's Wager - by Edwardo Piet - May 10, 2018 at 6:30 pm
RE: The Problem with Pascal's Wager - by Rhondazvous - May 10, 2018 at 7:17 pm
RE: The Problem with Pascal's Wager - by Edwardo Piet - May 10, 2018 at 7:21 pm
RE: The Problem with Pascal's Wager - by Magilla - May 10, 2018 at 10:50 pm
RE: The Problem with Pascal's Wager - by Edwardo Piet - May 10, 2018 at 6:51 pm
RE: The Problem with Pascal's Wager - by Tiberius - May 10, 2018 at 6:21 pm
RE: The Problem with Pascal's Wager - by Edwardo Piet - May 10, 2018 at 6:43 pm
RE: The Problem with Pascal's Wager - by Rhondazvous - May 10, 2018 at 7:35 pm
RE: The Problem with Pascal's Wager - by Edwardo Piet - May 10, 2018 at 7:44 pm
RE: The Problem with Pascal's Wager - by Rhondazvous - May 10, 2018 at 6:28 pm
RE: The Problem with Pascal's Wager - by Minimalist - May 10, 2018 at 6:11 pm
RE: The Problem with Pascal's Wager - by Huggy Bear - May 10, 2018 at 9:08 pm
RE: The Problem with Pascal's Wager - by Brian37 - May 10, 2018 at 9:16 pm
RE: The Problem with Pascal's Wager - by Minimalist - May 10, 2018 at 11:44 pm
RE: The Problem with Pascal's Wager - by vorlon13 - May 10, 2018 at 6:12 pm
RE: The Problem with Pascal's Wager - by Minimalist - May 10, 2018 at 6:26 pm
RE: The Problem with Pascal's Wager - by vorlon13 - May 10, 2018 at 6:51 pm
RE: The Problem with Pascal's Wager - by RoadRunner79 - May 10, 2018 at 7:06 pm
RE: The Problem with Pascal's Wager - by Edwardo Piet - May 10, 2018 at 7:11 pm
RE: The Problem with Pascal's Wager - by Rhondazvous - May 10, 2018 at 8:06 pm
RE: The Problem with Pascal's Wager - by vorlon13 - May 10, 2018 at 7:12 pm
RE: The Problem with Pascal's Wager - by Edwardo Piet - May 10, 2018 at 8:10 pm
RE: The Problem with Pascal's Wager - by Rhondazvous - May 11, 2018 at 7:18 am
RE: The Problem with Pascal's Wager - by Edwardo Piet - May 10, 2018 at 9:02 pm
RE: The Problem with Pascal's Wager - by Brian37 - May 10, 2018 at 8:55 pm
RE: The Problem with Pascal's Wager - by robvalue - May 10, 2018 at 8:59 pm
RE: The Problem with Pascal's Wager - by Brian37 - May 10, 2018 at 9:06 pm
RE: The Problem with Pascal's Wager - by Huggy Bear - May 10, 2018 at 9:20 pm
RE: The Problem with Pascal's Wager - by robvalue - May 10, 2018 at 11:04 pm
RE: The Problem with Pascal's Wager - by robvalue - May 10, 2018 at 11:10 pm
RE: The Problem with Pascal's Wager - by robvalue - May 10, 2018 at 11:55 pm
RE: The Problem with Pascal's Wager - by brewer - May 11, 2018 at 7:27 am

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