RE: Are you an assertive atheist or a passive one?
September 7, 2011 at 8:25 am
(This post was last modified: September 7, 2011 at 8:38 am by ElDinero.)
You need to start checking your posts after replying, buddy.
If your mother agrees that everyone is God, she is not an atheist. It sounds kind of like Pantheism to me. And I don't 'dislike' Gods. I don't believe they exist.
Now I didn't actually say yours was the 'worst' view of God. I said it was the most pointless, because it answers no questions, doesn't change any information that we already had, it just calls everything God for what appears to be no reason, apart from maybe to ensure everyone is treated equally? Well of course we want equality, but why does that necessitate calling everything God? It makes zero sense. Also, I don't know why you're telling me to check my record books because I didn't challenge you on the percentages you quoted, other than to say that it is estimated that atheists and agnostics could make up as much as 30% of the population in the USA in ten years time. I didn't even mention the stats you quoted because they are irrelevant. Atheists are a minority which is why they are not hugely represented in various fields. That said, of the most educated people on Earth, much larger percentages are likely to be non-believers. I wonder why that could be?
Your first paragraph there I didn't understand at all. I'm guessing English is not your first language which is fine but if there's a point in that paragraph I haven't found it. The only other thing I have to take issue with is 'Why are so many atheists so pessimistic and ungrateful'. This one seems to have just come out of left field. Once again, as with the 'lack of imagination' claim, you haven't proven that it's even true. Before working out WHY something is the case, you have to actually show that it IS the case. It's like asking the question 'Why is it that so many Frenchmen wear odd socks and eat nothing but fish on every other Tuesday?'.
You're a fairly infuriating person to discuss things with. You repeatedly make unsupported assertions, contradict yourself within a paragraph, make pointless and unrelated statements that confuse the issue. You're all over the place.
(September 7, 2011 at 5:08 am)Castle Wrote: From displaying in natural history museum and around the world .I find a great deal of Intellectual suppression on scientists I work with. They are afraid to speak out or they will be threatening by typically powerful interest group of corporation, government or profession. It’s not so much the scientist imagination in put than the product image. I had to break away from working for millionaire and billionaire in order restart new natural industries and products
Check your record books it’s only 3% atheist and 7% agonistic are on neurtal grounds in this world. There are 11% spiritual non religious in which most think there is a god. It all works out that 90% think there can be a god or there is a God. Most of these small list I get about great atheist in world history, on the average, about half of them are not self proclaim atheist. I did not add up yours, yet did see plenty of them.
Why are so many atheist so pessimistic and ungrateful, maybe because they do not lead their own lives well enough because its difficulties when so many relationship or people are suppressing them. I am with you on the preferential treatment in religious onesided dominates.
I think everyone is god embraces the simplest and most elegant idea that so nobody is any better or worst then the next guy, my atheist Mother agrees, everyone is god too.
With all the crazy cults out there, you think my view of God is the worst? That not even a decent insult coming from someone who says God either exists or God does not, you can’t help it, you’re an atheist, you dislike all forms of gods
If your mother agrees that everyone is God, she is not an atheist. It sounds kind of like Pantheism to me. And I don't 'dislike' Gods. I don't believe they exist.
Now I didn't actually say yours was the 'worst' view of God. I said it was the most pointless, because it answers no questions, doesn't change any information that we already had, it just calls everything God for what appears to be no reason, apart from maybe to ensure everyone is treated equally? Well of course we want equality, but why does that necessitate calling everything God? It makes zero sense. Also, I don't know why you're telling me to check my record books because I didn't challenge you on the percentages you quoted, other than to say that it is estimated that atheists and agnostics could make up as much as 30% of the population in the USA in ten years time. I didn't even mention the stats you quoted because they are irrelevant. Atheists are a minority which is why they are not hugely represented in various fields. That said, of the most educated people on Earth, much larger percentages are likely to be non-believers. I wonder why that could be?
Your first paragraph there I didn't understand at all. I'm guessing English is not your first language which is fine but if there's a point in that paragraph I haven't found it. The only other thing I have to take issue with is 'Why are so many atheists so pessimistic and ungrateful'. This one seems to have just come out of left field. Once again, as with the 'lack of imagination' claim, you haven't proven that it's even true. Before working out WHY something is the case, you have to actually show that it IS the case. It's like asking the question 'Why is it that so many Frenchmen wear odd socks and eat nothing but fish on every other Tuesday?'.
You're a fairly infuriating person to discuss things with. You repeatedly make unsupported assertions, contradict yourself within a paragraph, make pointless and unrelated statements that confuse the issue. You're all over the place.
