RE: A friendly religious discussion with theists without any fallacies!
May 14, 2018 at 11:16 am
(May 14, 2018 at 7:58 am)ignoramus Wrote: Sorry man ..."Bad start" isn't even the word.
We're just talking amongst ourselves ...
We don't even really know where or how to begin discussing theism in a friendly and productive way is seems.
As Rob said, we don't even know what it is we don't believe in because not even theists can describe it in any standardized meaningful way.
Where to from here? Dirty jokes and poop talk I s'pose
Care to help us out?
Sincerely.
I always thought that the tactic of questioning the definition of God was an odd one. Considering that all one has to do to counter it, is provide a definition which is coherent. And this isn't difficult to do. I like the following comments from Apologetics Press concerning this tactic and a debate with Dan Barker.
Quote:God is the uncaused, all-powerful, all-knowing, merciful, gracious, eternal Spirit whose personality and attributes are manifested in the pages of the Bible. Virtually every dictionary gives an understandable and reasonable definition of God, books that deal with difficult words omit God, and God has been the main subject of discussion and study of the vast majority of the most brilliant thinkers for millennia. The rhetorical tactic suggesting that God cannot be defined is nothing more than an assertion based on a materialistic philosophy that is unfounded. In truth, God can be clearly defined and delineated from all other entities to such an extent that Dan Barker and I can be involved in a formal debate and both know exactly what (or rather Who) we are discussing—God, the God of the Bible.
I don't see where playing dumb, would go that far, in a discussion with a thinking person, and that when it comes to complaining, the people who use this, all of the sudden seem to know what they are talking about.
As to your other suggestion.... I'm afraid, that all I know are clean poop jokes.
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If I am shown my error, I will be the first to throw my books into the fire. - Martin Luther