New Iowa Law Restricts Abortion To Before Most Women Know They're Pregnant

[RoadRunner79]

Is it just an angry atheists thing?    Because I don't what you say here, following from what you said previously.

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What?   I think that you are imposing a lot of bias here, and your view of the other side is grossly inaccurate.   But then again, I don't see that the abortion issue has anything to do with oppressing women/mothers.   I think that it is about not supporting the killing of innocent babies with poor justification and reasons  to do so.

Fetuses (and Zygotes)are not babies. Christians are taught to call them that/think of them as that. I think this kind of obfuscates matters. I think it's hard to come to the conclusion that abortion is immoral without believing in things like predestination and god in general.

Thing is, if every fertilized egg cell is a baby, with a destiny, does that mean that god had a destiny for the fertilized egg cells that were lost during menstruation? Seems kind of wasteful for a perfect god. That also means he designed abortion into the natural functioning of women's bodies

I think that a pretty good case can be made for calling a fetus a baby.  There is nothing within the definition of "baby", that prohibits it, and it is quite common, even among doctors I have found, to call the growing fetus a baby.  So I don't see where that is obfuscating things at all;  and it sometimes seems, that proponents of abortion want to call it a fetus, to de-humanize it.  I'm will to compromise, and call it a separate and distinct human being, if you want to be technical.  We can even add fetus in there, if it makes you feel better.

As, to your comment about being unable to come to the conclusion that abortion is wrong without believing in God.   I would ask, how you come to such moral conclusions for an older child or an adult?   Some would say that you cannot have a basis for any objective morals without God. 

Your last paragraph seems to be, what they call over at the uncommon descent blog whataboutism (or whataboutery).  It's a varient of the tu quoque fallacy, where in place of an argument or reason, one tries to shift the subject to something else and try to show some kind of hypocrisy rather than refute the logic.     This one, I think is particularly bad, because with similar reasoning, it would also folllow, that because people die from disease and accidents, that it is also ok to murder people without justification.   I don't think anyone is arguing either (unless you are advocating it).

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Is it just an angry atheists thing?    Because I don't what you say here, following from what you said previously.

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What?   I think that you are imposing a lot of bias here, and your view of the other side is grossly inaccurate.   But then again, I don't see that the abortion issue has anything to do with oppressing women/mothers.   I think that it is about not supporting the killing of innocent babies with poor justification and reasons  to do so.

Your idea of what differentiate a baby from  a cloud of tissue that can exorcised with nary a look  is based purely on an ignorant religious fiction concocted during the Bronze Age to overawe the ignorant, illiterate and gullible so that the priests, prophets and other hucksters can dominate and profit.

Nope... that must be your idea, because I said nothing of the sort!