RE: New Iowa Law Restricts Abortion To Before Most Women Know They're Pregnant
May 14, 2018 at 4:51 pm
(This post was last modified: May 14, 2018 at 5:19 pm by RoadRunner79.)
(May 14, 2018 at 4:47 pm)Divinity Wrote: It's all about controlling women.
You know how I know? Because nobody gives a fuck about the mother. Nobody gives a fuck about the child once they're born either. They don't even really give a fuck when it's a fetus. All they care about is telling women what they can and can't do. That's why we don't have mandated paid maternity leave. It's why we don't have anything for prenatal care. It's why they don't want anyone to have easy and free access to birth control.
They care about life until it's inconvenient for them. Namely when it's costing them something. Force the woman to give birth against her will, but then let the child starve to death because fuck them we're not giving them food stamps.
Ok... I don't agree with any of that. And I don't think that it represents a lot of people, who are against abortion. FYI!
(May 14, 2018 at 4:50 pm)Hammy Wrote:(May 14, 2018 at 4:03 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: When it gets to the point of being a fetus, at about 8 weeks, the differences aren't as great as you might think. By 10 weeks i believe that 90% of systems are in place (going from memory here). I'm assuming what you mean, is that 1 day after conception is no different. In which case, I would recommend that you ask, in what way that they mean that. Personally I'm am in disbelief, that much of anyone would try to say that it is every way. However science can show that pretty much immediately there is a distinct life that is formed.
When life is form is different to when acute sentience is formed. Is a 1 day old fetus capable of suffering?
The evidence seems to keep moving back, for where a fetus seems to be able to feel sensations. I think that it is around the beginning time in development, that the little human is a fetus that they do feel pain and other sensations. Would you say, that it is permissible murder another human being, as long as they do not feel the pain in doing so? I can understand the moral implications, if someone is killing and specifically, increasing the suffering, but I don't think that it is only wrong to kill other humans, only if they suffer in doing so. Do you?
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