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New Iowa Law Restricts Abortion To Before Most Women Know They're Pregnant
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RE: New Iowa Law Restricts Abortion To Before Most Women Know They're Pregnant
(May 14, 2018 at 6:12 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote:
(May 14, 2018 at 4:51 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: The evidence seems to keep moving back, for where a fetus seems to be able to feel sensations.  I think that it is around the beginning time in development, that the little human is a fetus that they do feel pain and other sensations.  Would you say, that it is permissible  murder another human being, as long as they do not feel the pain in doing so?   I can understand the moral implications, if someone is killing and specifically, increasing the suffering, but I don't think that it is only  wrong to kill other humans, only if they suffer in doing so.  Do you?

Do you believe that it is moral to force someone to put their life at risk if not doing so means that someone else will die? At what limit are you not willing to put that morality into practice? Is it moral for me to force you to give up a kidney if it will save someone else's life? Can we force you to give up a lung to save another person? It's not like you don't have two of them.

The trolley problem is never easy. However it does point out the distinction between not saving another human, and actively causing them violence resulting in death. I would say that your bodily autonomy ends with your body, and when you start talking about killing another. This would be the difference between a lack of saving, vs killing. For instance, if someone instead of not saving the dying man, shoots them, it is still murder.
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RE: New Iowa Law Restricts Abortion To Before Most Women Know They're Pregnant - by RoadRunner79 - May 14, 2018 at 7:04 pm

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