(September 4, 2011 at 2:05 am)Captain Scarlet Wrote: Salty you seem scary to me because you appear not to think for yourself, but absorb and regurgitate the unsophisticated (being charitable for a moment) and ignorant theist perspectives. There are many other more sophisticated arguments for theism. Personally I find none of them at all convincing, and the god portrayed not only at odds with their source documents but also so far from human experience as to be meaningless and contradictory, but then I'm an atheist and the theists would differ in their interpretation. If you wish to justify your theism then there are better places to start than, "why are there still monkeys if evolution is true"; it's just embarrassing and even if true (which it is ABSOLUTELY NOT) would not prove a god nor prove the xtian one.
Sorry it took so long, Captain. I see what you mean, that's a good argument you have. I would think that someone saying, "God can't be all-loving if he sends people to Hell" also as someone who is not capable of thinking for themselves. This elementary response shows no investigation in Biblical teaching, but I don't hold that against anyone.
We both have a subject in which we have the ability to think and to defend, mine is theological and yours is scientific. I basically made a fool of myself by crossing into this area (atheism/science), but I'm completely okay with that, because people make foolish mistakes everyday. What I'm looking for is someone who is willing to teach me and willing to listen. In the meantime I will continue to be "scary" until I can find someone that doesn't dismiss what is important to me, and even when I come up with dumb things, they correct me because they want me to understand, not because I'm just wrong.
What good does it do to correct someone by saying, "you're wrong?" Instead it's best to show where you get the evidence for being "right" and then you can correct someone. In the end, whether the person listens or not is based on their trust in you and in what you use to substatiate your evidence, correct?
"And without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to him must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who earnestly seek him." Hebrews 11:6