(June 7, 2018 at 10:58 am)johan Wrote:(June 7, 2018 at 9:18 am)Mr.wizard Wrote: We have already went through this whole design art thing, nobody is arguing the businesses should be forced to provide products or services that they don't offer, so please stop repeating that position to me because I'm getting tired of addressing it with the same rebuttal. If straight people can buy your wedding cakes than gay people should be able to buy you wedding cakes.
Ok I'm on board, its not about the design. But to be fair, you're saying if straight people can buy the wedding cake, gay people should be able to buy them too. I guarantee you that baker would happily sell any gay couple a wedding cake. So long as its for a wedding between a man and woman. So its not the design of the cake. But its also not the sexual orientation of the person making the purchase which is what you're claiming.
Anyway enough of this. Its becoming pointless. Pass any law you want. Fuck anyone foolish enough to own a business or create custom work for money.
I'm not passing a law, the law is already there. It may not be the orientation of the person standing there with credit card but it is a refusal of service based on sexual orientation and that is the discrimination. It is the same as a business saying you can't buy our things for black people, just because just because nobody can buy your product for black people doesn't make it less discriminatory. Under Colorado's Public Accommodation law you cannot discriminate on the basis of sexual orientation, meaning you can't say I don't make cakes for gay weddings because your basis for refusal is the sexual orientation of a group of people.
