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Masterpiece Cakeshop v. Colorado Civil Rights Commission, Round 2
August 16, 2018 at 8:14 am
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Baker claims religious persecution again — this time after denying cake for transgender woman
Quote:Add another layer to the legal drama surrounding the Colorado baker who refused to make a wedding cake for a same-sex couple — and took his case all the way to the Supreme Court.
Jack Phillips, owner of Masterpiece Cakeshop in Lakewood, Colo., on Tuesday filed another federal lawsuit against the state alleging religious discrimination.
This time, the cake at the center of the controversy was not for a wedding. In June 2017, Colorado lawyer Autumn Scardina called Masterpiece Cakeshop to request a custom cake that was blue on the outside and pink on the inside.
The occasion, Scardina told the bakery’s employees, was to celebrate her birthday, as well as the seventh anniversary of the day she had come out as transgender.
Masterpiece Cakeshop ultimately refused Scardina’s order on religious grounds.
“Phillips declined to create the cake with the blue-and-pink design because it would have celebrated messages contrary to his religious belief that sex — the status of being male or female — is given by God, is biologically determined, is not determined by perceptions or feelings, and cannot be chosen or changed,” the complaint stated.
More than a year later, on June 28, the Colorado Civil Rights Commission ruled that there was probable cause that Phillips had discriminated against Scardina on the basis of gender identity.
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RE: Masterpiece Cakeshop v. Colorado Civil Rights Commission, Round 2
August 16, 2018 at 8:19 am
All he has to do is hang up a no coloreds sign and he'll have hit the trifecta, lol.
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RE: Masterpiece Cakeshop v. Colorado Civil Rights Commission, Round 2
August 16, 2018 at 8:39 am
I wonder if he bakes wedding cakes for people who are on their second marriage. After all, divorce is expressly forbidden in the NT, and any woman who remarries commits adultery, so says Jesus.
Why do I get the feeling he only takes a moral stand against the queers and weirdos?
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RE: Masterpiece Cakeshop v. Colorado Civil Rights Commission, Round 2
August 16, 2018 at 8:51 am
(August 16, 2018 at 8:39 am)vulcanlogician Wrote: After all, divorce is expressly forbidden in the NT, and any woman who remarries commits adultery, so says Jesus.
Yep, once she dumps her hubby or gets dumped by him, that bitch is His.
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RE: Masterpiece Cakeshop v. Colorado Civil Rights Commission, Round 2
August 16, 2018 at 8:57 am
(August 16, 2018 at 8:39 am)vulcanlogician Wrote: I wonder if he bakes wedding cakes for people who are on their second marriage. After all, divorce is expressly forbidden in the NT, and any woman who remarries commits adultery, so says Jesus.
Why do I get the feeling he only takes a moral stand against the queers and weirdos?
I doubt that people ordering a cake for a second marriage bother to tell him that it's for a second marriage.
This person went out of the way to say it had to do with being transgender. They're trying to stir up shit.
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RE: Masterpiece Cakeshop v. Colorado Civil Rights Commission, Round 2
August 16, 2018 at 9:01 am
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(August 16, 2018 at 8:57 am)alpha male Wrote: (August 16, 2018 at 8:39 am)vulcanlogician Wrote: I wonder if he bakes wedding cakes for people who are on their second marriage. After all, divorce is expressly forbidden in the NT, and any woman who remarries commits adultery, so says Jesus.
Why do I get the feeling he only takes a moral stand against the queers and weirdos?
I doubt that people ordering a cake for a second marriage bother to tell him that it's for a second marriage.
This person went out of the way to say it had to do with being transgender. They're trying to stir up shit.
Even if so, the basic questions remain. And as Christians and others are intentionally creating test cases to determine the extent of law, I don't see what your actual objection here is. Are you saying that in order for their complaint to be legitimate it had to have been purely unintentional? Because that's just not gonna fly.
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RE: Masterpiece Cakeshop v. Colorado Civil Rights Commission, Round 2
August 16, 2018 at 9:04 am
(August 16, 2018 at 8:57 am)alpha male Wrote: (August 16, 2018 at 8:39 am)vulcanlogician Wrote: I wonder if he bakes wedding cakes for people who are on their second marriage. After all, divorce is expressly forbidden in the NT, and any woman who remarries commits adultery, so says Jesus.
Why do I get the feeling he only takes a moral stand against the queers and weirdos?
I doubt that people ordering a cake for a second marriage bother to tell him that it's for a second marriage.
This person went out of the way to say it had to do with being transgender. They're trying to stir up shit.
Some people will tell you their PIN. 
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RE: Masterpiece Cakeshop v. Colorado Civil Rights Commission, Round 2
August 16, 2018 at 9:07 am
(August 16, 2018 at 8:57 am)alpha male Wrote: I doubt that people ordering a cake for a second marriage bother to tell him that it's for a second marriage.
This person went out of the way to say it had to do with being transgender. They're trying to stir up shit.
Yes, because being true to one's self is always stirring up shit.
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RE: Masterpiece Cakeshop v. Colorado Civil Rights Commission, Round 2
August 16, 2018 at 9:07 am
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Whereas filing serial lawsuits...isn't. 
I really can't get why anyone would want to do this to their religion. God commands that they discriminate? They can't be faithful to their religion without running afoul of state and federal discrimination laws? Well..if they say so, I guess...but what kind of crap religion, and crap god... is that?
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RE: Masterpiece Cakeshop v. Colorado Civil Rights Commission, Round 2
August 16, 2018 at 9:20 am
(August 16, 2018 at 9:07 am)Khemikal Wrote: Whereas filing serial lawsuits...isn't.
I really can't get why anyone would want to do this to their religion. God commands that they discriminate? They can't be faithful to their religion without running afoul of state and federal discrimination laws? Well..if they say so, I guess...but what kind of crap religion, and crap god... is that?
They only regret that God can't be there personally to look down on them. So those good bakers are only being snooty on God's behalf.
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