I listened to this podcast yesterday "Breakpoint" from the Chuck Colson center; concerning the Masterpiece bake shop decision.
http://www.breakpoint.org/2018/06/bp-thi...ece-means/
A lot of it is discussing what it means that it is a narrow decision, although it had clear majority support. Towards the end, they also discuss a hardware store which came into the news lately who posted a sign saying "No gays allowed". They made a distinction between this and the Masterpiece Bake Shop; which, was not saying that he would not sell to same sex attracted people, but was refusing a particular event that he didn't agree with. Similarly there was another case, with a Florist a little while ago, that had been selling to a gay couple for years, and said that she would continue selling to them, but did not wish to do the flowers for their same sex union (The couple understood and where not even the ones who made a stink about it).
But these commentator's again clearly condemn the shop that posted a sign that said "No gays". They call it sinful and hateful. They did not support this in anyway. It is not about being against a people or discriminating against them, they deserve the same dignity and respect that everyone does, who is made in the image of God. It is about being able to refuse a job, which goes against your conscience. As I've said before; I think that there are subtleties to how one should and should not be able to discriminate and should be able to refuse a job. And despite any technicalities I don't see much difference in those who discriminated against the Trump inauguration. However this type of view is the one I see from most commentators. You will also find Christians who say that they should just bake the cake, and you will find those who do want to discriminate against the people.
However, I'm going by what I see most, and at the very least, it should be acknowledged that there are those out there who are making this distinction and do not advocate many of the things ascribed to them in this thread. Even after being corrected, there where people who continued with the same false narrative. If you are going to have a rational conversation about things, then you need to listen to what the other side is saying, and to address their points. Too much seems like the left and the LGBT is just spewing their own emotional bigotry.
http://www.breakpoint.org/2018/06/bp-thi...ece-means/
A lot of it is discussing what it means that it is a narrow decision, although it had clear majority support. Towards the end, they also discuss a hardware store which came into the news lately who posted a sign saying "No gays allowed". They made a distinction between this and the Masterpiece Bake Shop; which, was not saying that he would not sell to same sex attracted people, but was refusing a particular event that he didn't agree with. Similarly there was another case, with a Florist a little while ago, that had been selling to a gay couple for years, and said that she would continue selling to them, but did not wish to do the flowers for their same sex union (The couple understood and where not even the ones who made a stink about it).
But these commentator's again clearly condemn the shop that posted a sign that said "No gays". They call it sinful and hateful. They did not support this in anyway. It is not about being against a people or discriminating against them, they deserve the same dignity and respect that everyone does, who is made in the image of God. It is about being able to refuse a job, which goes against your conscience. As I've said before; I think that there are subtleties to how one should and should not be able to discriminate and should be able to refuse a job. And despite any technicalities I don't see much difference in those who discriminated against the Trump inauguration. However this type of view is the one I see from most commentators. You will also find Christians who say that they should just bake the cake, and you will find those who do want to discriminate against the people.
However, I'm going by what I see most, and at the very least, it should be acknowledged that there are those out there who are making this distinction and do not advocate many of the things ascribed to them in this thread. Even after being corrected, there where people who continued with the same false narrative. If you are going to have a rational conversation about things, then you need to listen to what the other side is saying, and to address their points. Too much seems like the left and the LGBT is just spewing their own emotional bigotry.
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If I am shown my error, I will be the first to throw my books into the fire. - Martin Luther
If I am shown my error, I will be the first to throw my books into the fire. - Martin Luther