(June 15, 2018 at 9:06 am)KittyAnn Wrote: He could, but our decision, as I said, depends on our upbringing, environment, surroundings ... so sometimes instead of doing what we want, what we think ... we make a decision that will refer to the surroundings, so we do something against ourselves, against our free will .. Of course, the algorithm of our brain isn't even predictable for us ...and good somehowBut we still have a free will ... this is a assumption as in physics ... If we lived in a vacuum, our free will ... it would be really free ...
I'm starting to think we are referring to different things when we say "free". Free should mean independent of any constraints Our will, our decision making algorithm, like you called it, does seem to have a strong dependence upon those things you mentioned. It also works within our brains that should adhere to standard describable and predictable biophysics, even if our human brains are way too complex for us to monitor one in full to accurately claim that some thought occurred in such and such way.
(June 15, 2018 at 9:06 am)KittyAnn Wrote: And I can't imagine that they put a chip into my brain and now the computer tells me what to do, what to think, what to dream (i prefer mine unpredictable brain) or not to mention the fact that the hacker can put a virus into my brain and suddenly i would like to strangle the neighbor... so no thank you.... it is enough that the environment, education and law directs my choices..
There you go again... your choices are not truly free, are they?
And I think that, before anyone can make such a chip, we'll have to understand how the brain actually works.
On the other hand, it is remarkably easy to induce certain sensations that then induce certain behaviors...
(June 15, 2018 at 9:06 am)KittyAnn Wrote: But of course, I don't mind if technology can help us in our daily lives, when it can help us make our life easier ... eg when losing a hand or leg it can replace it .. and of course I don't mind if the technology contributes to improving the health of people with Parkinson's, Alzchaimer's or other brain diseases ... I know that implanting certain chips into the brain can stimulate it properly, which makes life easier for such people and sometimes even it can brings them back to live.
So, technology -YES, so long as it doesn't take away our humanity!
Totally agree.
(June 15, 2018 at 9:06 am)KittyAnn Wrote: Would I make a different decision? ... I think that if the conditions were different, other people, different environment, other upbringing, other circumstances ... certainly yes! Btw.. i was close to made a different decision...
Of course, if the conditions were different, the decision becomes unknown and possibly different...
But the question claims that everything is the same, your lifetime is the same, everything around you is the same, you are the same. Would your decision be any different?
I guess what I'm saying is that, while we think we make choices, from the pool of available behaviors at any given moment, all our background, mental, memorial, physical, genetic, etc will be what actually drives our decision making process and there is nothing, no mechanism by which can come to a decision that defies that.