(June 22, 2018 at 1:00 pm)Drich Wrote:(June 22, 2018 at 12:40 pm)*Deidre* Wrote: I think God is loving but maybe it’s my own perceptions that are limited? I don’t adhere to religion per se, but part of my thinking might come from religions. I don’t have a prerequisite that a god is tantamount to a genie in a bottle that should grant my every wish and provide me with a life free of pain. I guess the question is - if God allows suffering etc then how can he be loving?
I think it’s difficult to convince people that one almighty God loves them, when they are hurting and some of that hurt might be coming from their families, loved ones, etc
The bible NEVER said God is loving. The bible originally said God is Agape' which we translated into loving... our loving and God's Agape' are not compatible terms.
As you pointed out a loving person would protect from Harm. Agape' uses things like hardship and suffering to work away our spiritual imperfections to polish and shape us into usable tools for God's use.
A loving person may see a shape in a knot of wood that resembles a mother and child
An Agape person will take that knot and cut, chip sand grind and shape that knot till a beautiful sculpture of a mother and child is instantly recognisable.
God's love/Agape' love is love beyond the moment and want. Agape' is the love that will see you through pain rather than help you avoid it. why? because we only grow through pain.
(June 22, 2018 at 12:49 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Emjays a bit of a pushover, lol. The only thing he profoundly misunderstood is what -you- are referring to with eros. He actually got it right from his source material.
don't hate sport. some people seek truth other's seek conflict. same tools just different end.
(June 22, 2018 at 12:57 pm)Khemikal Wrote: No Drich, I;ve never said that lol. I;ve never worshipped or believed in any gods....nor am I waiting for any god to show up.
I merely note that your personal jesus is an asshole while the majority of others personal jesus is not.
that's a lie earlier this week you were asking my to "go get papa."
That said I can't help if everyone else is wrong. Jesus was harsh towards his students unyeilding/cursing to his religious superiors and kind to his sheep. I can't help it if other only see what they want. the truth is the truth and is written on page for anyone to see it. Jesus gave peter the name petros or unstable gravel that is like calling a full grown man "sport." it refers to the man's in ablity to commit to a course of action.
John 15:13 - “Greater love has no one than this: to lay down one’s life to one’s friends.”
John 13:34 - “A new command I give you: Love one another as I have loved you.”
The Bible speaks a lot about God’s love, from a Christian view.