Say Something Nice About President Trump

[Tiberius]

Never mind positive, how is this a step forward, in any direction?

A meeting between a North Korean leader and a US President is a step forward.

The only agreement is both sides agree there is an agreement regarding a nuclear free nirvana they’ve always agreed as being nice to have, is still nice to have.

Right, which is why I said we will have to see if NK makes actual concessions.

The ultimate conclusion will be, the nice nirvana not withstanding, North Korea will continue to possess nuclear weapons able to strike the United States while, in the best of circumstances, the US will no longer freak out about it.

But kindly recall the freaking out was done by trump.

The US has been "freaking out" about NK nuclear weapons for years. That goes further back than Trump. There's a good reason for freaking out about them: South Korea / Japan are close allies, and Hawaii is a potential target for NK missiles.

In return for showing the opportunity to show an Unfreaked-out side of trump, the US agreed to take a strategic step backwards.

Do you think for a moment that if NK refuses to actually do anything, Trump won't just reinstate the military exercises with South Korea? Trump, if anything, has been obsessed with showing military strength.

The lesson for the world is, get a nuclear weapon, get the US to freak out, burp the US, and you get to keep the weapon, the US takes a step back from their posture before you got your weapon.

I disagree. The big difference here is Chinese support. China have long supported North Korea and that has caused havoc with potential US-NK relations. Personally I think without the decline in Chinese relations with NK, which has happened pretty steadily over a few years (even before Trump), this meeting would have never happened. China have been supporting sanctions against NK since early 2016.