(June 27, 2018 at 12:17 am)robvalue Wrote:
PS: I remember one attempt, actually. I won't say who it was. But they claimed there is a falsifiable test:
If our universe exists then God exists; if it doesn't, then God doesn't.
This just tags "God" on as a meaningless extra quality to the universe existing, but it still seems unfalsifiable. It appears impossible that I could collect evidence which shows that the universe does not exist. At best I can try and convince myself that my experiences don't relate to anything real, and that somehow there isn't even anything real to experience, and that I myself am nothing. How exactly I could demonstrate that, even theoretically, I have no idea. It appears highly paradoxical.
Hey, if they are pantheist and identify God as the universe, then I guess I'm a theist also. Otherwise, the argument is nonsense.