Atheism

[SteveII]

The existence of 27 documents detailing the claims of members of the first century church (we all know what those claims are). The existence of the first century church. The experiences of millions of people that have been chronicles for 2000 more years and exist today.

None of which is evidence of a deity: knowledge of those historical events doesn't change the probability of a deity existing by one bit.

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Yes it does. Two points about your comments. 

1. You have set a threshold for proof. That itself is a belief about where that threshold should be as evidenced by the the fact that billions upon billions of people that have set that threshold somewhere else. So right there you have one belief (claim) that can be scrutinized. 
2. You care confusing the definitions of evidence and proof. Evidence refers to pieces of information or facts that help us establish the truth of something. Proof is a conclusion about the truth of something after analyzing the evidence. Evidence is suggestive of a conclusion. Proof is concrete and conclusive. It is a false statement to say there is no evidence for God. If there is evidence, then your meme is an assertion. 

I know word definitions are tough and being precise is overrated. 

No pieces of information huh? What about the NT? What about the experiences of billions of people? That is not information or those people are wrong? To say yes is a HUGE claim--a claim to knowledge for which you don't have any basis besides ASSERTIONS--which you meme said you don't make. Hmm...

Go ahead, tell me why these don't count as "pieces of information or facts" and I will show you how your answer is question-begging.

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Wow. So you argument is basically

1. The NT, the early church, the personal experiences of billions of people is not information or facts because I failed to believe they are information or facts.


that's it. There is no #2. 

I think question-begging would be a step up from that.

No, they are not information or evidence because the confounds are so extreme as to make the evidence useless for any conclusion.

The experiences of people are evidence only that people have certain experiences under emotional stress. That is an interesting neurological fact about the human species, but doesn't support the existence of a deity.

Your answer seems to be that my list is not evidence because it is insufficient. Setting aside that that is question begging, by that logic then no single piece of information could ever be evidence because by itself it would never be sufficient. 

Your last paragraph is nothing but assertions (defined as a claim without evidence). You can't possibly know what other people experience or don't experience.