RE: Atheism
June 29, 2018 at 11:13 am
(This post was last modified: June 29, 2018 at 11:20 am by Whateverist.)
(June 28, 2018 at 9:08 pm)Tizheruk Wrote:Quote:RR wrote:1. Not my problem
So what evidence would be sufficient to learn that something exists? Do you think that bias effects your standards of evidence? There is no epistemological foundation for a shifting standard of evidence. Which is why I asked if evidence matters. What type of evidence would it take?
2.No
3.Yes there it's all in pattern of shift and to what .
4.Of course it matters
5.Not my problem
1. For empirical claims I prefer the methods of science. For psychological claims I'm happy to accept what you say as true for you based only on your word so long as I think you're being sincere. I actually think consciousness is more than than capable of producing more than your conscious mind. In fact I'll make that my psychological confession. But if you think God is more than a co-product of consciousness with an existence and agency beyond your own mind and body, then the standard for empirical claims applies.
2. For psychological claims, of course. For empirical claims, where bias is found it can be corrected for.
3. The domains of the empirical and the psychological just do have separate epistemological standards.
4. Evidence is the name of the game where formal science is concerned. Of course we are all capable of acting on seat-of-the-pants empirical theories in our daily lives and formal science only cares about some of those. Without the benefit of peer review our rough and ready empirical assumptions are indeed error prone.
5. To move your psychological confession -which is what I think belief in God is- into the realm of empirical claims you would need peer reviewed evidence arrived at repeatedly by multiple groups independently performing the experiment. If your claims regarding God are not amenable to testing, then you should admit what you hold is a psychological claim, the truth of which may be shared by some and not by others. The good news for you is that your psychological claim is safe from being disproven by empirical standards.