(September 12, 2011 at 5:29 pm)Rhythm Wrote: I trust people who can substantiate their claims, not whoever smiles hardest or has given me the most toys. Pick a side and be done with it? Immortal soul's on the line, afraid that isn't good enough. If we can't trust that the bible has a single consistent message on something so crucial to the entire business of being christian...exactly what CAN we trust that lies within the pages of the bible? Post#25?
Whoa. What makes you think that souls are on the line when it comes to predestination vs. freewill? It is clear in the Bible that any who call on the name of the Lord will be saved.
It is only Christians who like to chatter back and forth about whether we were "chosen" or "if we came" but by that time we're all in the same boat, you get me?
If a non-believer denies Christ because of predestination, then they are blinded by the overall message that God has chosen people, but those people have not been revealed to us on earth, and that people choose to come to Christ of their own will. Yes, a duel message, yes it's confusing, but when you're sinking in water you don't fight about what color the boat is, you either get in or you drown, you know?
"And without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to him must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who earnestly seek him." Hebrews 11:6