(July 2, 2018 at 10:04 am)Jörmungandr Wrote:(July 2, 2018 at 9:11 am)RoadRunner79 Wrote: I'm not sure what you believe I'm being unclear on. And while I may concede empty farmland (doesn't get a vote), running farms however have people and interests which I think should be included in the priorities of the head of state. Even in the current electoral college system, It is difficult for the lower population areas to overcome the big cities. It only comes into play when the votes are close anyway. I think that you are playing dumb, when you try talk about a proxy "Country as a whole" and empty farmland. It's empty rhetoric, to diverge from the idea at hand.
It's also not about which side wins. The parties could change, and the system could favor the other side in these cases. This seems to be more of a concern for you, than it is for me, and ignores the ideology behind it. That you don't even see why there is an electoral college in the first place, or seemly understand that there is an argument to begin with, makes me think that you aren't in a position to argue at all. Or perhaps this is just a tactic of polemics.
You haven't presented any "idea at hand." All you've basically said is that you believe that something other than individual interest should determine representation because you believe that. You haven't given any real identification of what that something is, nor why you feel it should justify a different apportionment of representation than that dictated by individual interest. You haven't explained dick, and I find the accusation that I'm spouting empty rhetoric to be ironic in the extreme. You haven't justified your opinion by anything other than merely reasserting it.
There may be justifications for the electoral college, but so far you haven't presented any of them. Either you do have such a justification in mind and are simply doing a shit job of representing it, or you yourself are engaging in empty rhetoric. So stop with the ad hominem bullshit and get on with the argument, if you have one.
Your not giving me anything else to work with... so I'm done here. I presented my case.... even if you cannot see it. I still maintain however, that if you can't understand the reasoning behind the electoral college, that you can't really argue against it.
It is said that an argument is what convinces reasonable men and a proof is what it takes to convince even an unreasonable man. - Alexander Vilenkin
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If I am shown my error, I will be the first to throw my books into the fire. - Martin Luther