RE: Atheism
July 5, 2018 at 8:41 pm
(This post was last modified: July 5, 2018 at 9:49 pm by Amarok.)
Quote:According to Plantinga, a belief, B, is warranted if:Goat mans silly attempts a rewriting epistemology to suit his fairy magic is just as absurd as you using it next you'll be employing his silly tiger analogy . Religious experience cannot warrant itself period it's a claim not evidence .
Quote:Pay attention. The claim was that the type of religious experiences were largely determined by CULTURE. A defeater for that is any large conversion of people from another culture. I have such a defeater: CHINA.People converting to a new religion from another dogmatic ideology and themselves being the product of an authoritarian mindset means nothing and the numbers or speed of conversation means nothing. Need i also point out that Christianity has concepts deeply already ingrained in Chinese culture .
Quote:The doubt of Simon's friend should arise from the overall worldview.
1. Is Hinduism theology internally consistent?
2. Does it have a coherent understanding of reality?
3. Is there some sort of body of natural theology that support the tenent of the faith?
4. Are the facts of Krishna's life believable (as a god)? (demons, killing, war, wives, children, died of an arrow wound)
In ALL cases, religion has to be a cumulative case.
Rigging the lottery i see
(July 5, 2018 at 11:17 am)Mathilda Wrote:Agreed if Steves argument were sound people should be seeing Jesus all over the world long before contact with Christians or any knowledge of the religion . A case can clearly be made for cultural contamination.(July 5, 2018 at 10:54 am)SteveII Wrote: Pay attention. The claim was that the type of religious experiences were largely determined by CULTURE. A defeater for that is any large conversion of people from another culture. I have such a defeater: CHINA.
But you can still immerse yourself in Xtian culture in China in the same way that you could immerse yourself in a Hindu or Muslim culture in say Scotland if you wanted.
What you haven't shown is that people immersed in one culture with no exposure to Xtian imagery are having religious experiences consistent with the Xtian mythos.
Quote:Classic example of moving the goal post: Now the premise seems to be that you need people who becomes Christians without knowing anything about Christianity. Forget the pages of claims of cultural influence.Nope it's not it's perfectly comparable with the the original claim your simply being dishonest
Reformed epistemology is weak sauce apologetic s and your walls of to make your case look impressive does not move your case along in the least
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